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View Poll Results: Do you want Obama's healthcare program to be passed | |||
Yes! | 66 | 40.74% | |
Fuck No! | 52 | 32.10% | |
LF | 11 | 6.79% | |
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08-08-2009, 10:29 AM | #11 | |
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Universal Health care would not work in America. Saying that ''Australia and Canada have it so why can't we?'' is a horrible analogy. Neither of these countries are supporting 20+ million illegal immigrants, plus another 30 who don't have Health care now. So, in short, the Government is going to dump 50 million people into the health care system. How are they going to do this? Well, if an 70 year old woman needs eye surgery, the Government can say, ''you're not getting eye surgery, you're getting these pills, because it's cheaper for us.'' The Government will in essence provide the cheapest and poorest quality care because it has to cover 50 million people for free. Almost every single program the Government has ever tried to run has failed. Except the highway system. But that's it. The Government needs to stay out of the lives of it's citizens, biut thats a rant for another day. Thank god this will never pass.
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08-08-2009, 10:32 AM | #12 | ||
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08-08-2009, 10:35 AM | #13 | ||
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08-08-2009, 10:39 AM | #14 | |
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But the part about the gov choosing definelty does. Who gets to choose whether she gets the surgery or not based on age or money....
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08-08-2009, 10:40 AM | #15 | |
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American citizens would be at the end of a long, long line. Jose and Sancho from Guatemala would be the first two in line.
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08-08-2009, 12:13 PM | #16 | ||
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And Feibs, we're already at the back of the line, most citizens just don't realize it. At least this way we'll at least get equal access.
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08-08-2009, 12:24 PM | #17 | ||
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Equal access?? It shouldn't be equal access. This is America. American citizens should come first. You should choose your insurance, pay your premium, and if god forbid something happens, you'll be covered for whatever procedure is best (despite the cost). Illegal immigrants shouldn't have any free coverage at all. Poor AMERICAN citizens have Medicaid.
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08-08-2009, 12:24 PM | #18 | ||
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08-08-2009, 12:43 PM | #19 | ||
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Right now the system is fucked. Those 2 guys from Guatemala you mentioned have better health care than 98% of Americans right now.
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Again I have to say probably the most viable solution would be for the government to provide baseline care “which again as Imperial already stated is the de facto situation already” only by making it official you’ll get more preventive care which should at least be a net wash as far as costs go but you’ll now be able to probably fund it rather than just have it as another sort of debt. Beyond that baseline coverage have the market provide supplemental coverage on a per-individual or per-family basis which should increase competition and keep costs down. And also medicare doesn’t cover all poor Americans just those below the proverty lines so if your lower middle class or just treading slightly above the poverty line you’re sorry out of luck not to mention the program is a beyond massive black hole for money that is simply not sustainable in the long run as is.
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