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View Poll Results: Do you want Obama's healthcare program to be passed | |||
Yes! | 66 | 40.74% | |
Fuck No! | 52 | 32.10% | |
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09-11-2009, 07:32 PM | #101 | |
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Re: Universal Healthcare
what freedoms has he taken away?
and more importantly, are they more grevious than what Bush did?
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09-12-2009, 05:23 AM | #102 | |
Ill nail those traitors to the senate floor
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Economic freedoms, you don't raise taxes to people. And making $125,000 a year is hardly rich class. You have to make $500,000 to $1 mill in order for your business to stay alive.
The Czars don't have to go through senate hearings, that's Unconstitutional. The health care bill is a sign of corporatism, just more of the same. Big Pharmaceutical has a big name on it, so before you think that he isn't going to lobby this administration you better think again. Replacing the manager of General Motors. Obama is what 9 months into his administration, and Bush was 8 years. Obama has already done more damage to the nation than Bush did in his first 9 months, not to mention his popularity rate, but that's because this country has finally decided to awaken himself. Today is 9/12. Oh and not to mention all that spending, that basically puts a price tag on every generation from here on forward.
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09-12-2009, 05:34 AM | #103 | ||
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Waiting times can be fairly long for non urgent surgeries. If you're hip replacement you may wait a little while, but if you've just had an enormous cardio infarction then you are going to get your stent put in very quickly. My late mother when diagnosed with brain cancer was admitted to hospital, transferred to a specialist neurosurgery hospital, biopsied and out of surgery within a week. You aren’t going to die waiting for life saving surgery in a public system, you only wait for non urgent appointments.
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09-13-2009, 09:24 AM | #104 | ||
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09-13-2009, 03:29 PM | #105 | ||
Ill nail those traitors to the senate floor
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09-14-2009, 05:35 PM | #106 | |
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Thats your country...Im sure provided americas hospitals rarely get overpopulated that quick unless of a major disaster
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09-14-2009, 05:59 PM | #107 | |
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09-17-2009, 06:48 PM | #108 | ||
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I will not say that Universal healthcare should not be done, but I will say that copying Britain's, Canada's or Venezuela's systems would be a disaster. It has been proven. I will not cite evidence since I don't have the time to dig it up. There are systems that work, however. The Netherlands has a very good system, which is far more moderate than most democratic-socialist nations such as Britain. Before we increase the number of people who can get care, though, we need to increase the number of people able to provide it so that waiting lines do not get prohibitively long.
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09-17-2009, 08:29 PM | #109 | ||
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oh yeah and weed
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09-18-2009, 12:02 PM | #110 | ||
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You want an alternative system that another country uses? Why not take a look at the swiss? Their health care system is 100% privatized and is perhaps one of the best in the world.
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