Dat thing called an election.

[JOSEPHIVS MAGNVS]

Originally Posted by tom the pit leader

There are powerful factions in the world, particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, that have no interest in peace unless they happen to be calling the shots from a position of unopposed power. War is coming whether we wish ot or not. The question is, do you want a leader who will bow down, apologize for our freedoms, or someone who will stand up to murderous thugs?

Remember some of those deaths will be americans. Young kids. There are ways and there are ways. Just remember more invasions means more hate towards your country, terrorism, more american deaths and the cycle continuing. Brain power will not be used, only senseless aggresion.

[Legionnaire]

lol USA's voting system is pants-on-head retarded, especially the electoral college part

because direct votes are too mainstream

[Manoka]

Originally Posted by JOSEPHIVS MAGNVS

Remember some of those deaths will be americans. Young kids. There are ways and there are ways. Just remember more invasions means more hate towards your country, terrorism, more american deaths and the cycle continuing. Brain power will not be used, only senseless aggresion.

And what would you do instead?

[JOSEPHIVS MAGNVS]

Originally Posted by Manoka

And what would you do instead?

For starters, this is long term mind you, complete independence from foreign oil, this to prepare for a complete pullout from the middle east, putting some control on Netanyahu (sorry Israelis but his mouth doesn't keep you very safe imo), which is a menace greater than you might think, putting pressure or maybe even control on the UN to pitch in with real solutions and no more bs, a few years of no hostilities which would work wonders for your image, stopping aid to asshole dictatorships and bad governments like Egypt and investing it in your own development and just embargoing the crap out of terrorism supporters. Many more.


Also the cold war nut rethoric against Russia and "commies" and "better dead than red" kind of talk I heard Romney going on about is not very smart imo, tensions are high enough as it is.

[Manoka]

Originally Posted by JOSEPHIVS MAGNVS

For starters, this is long term mind you, complete independence from foreign oil, this to prepare for a complete pullout from the middle east, putting some control on Netanyahu (sorry Israelis but his mouth doesn't keep you very safe imo), which is a menace greater than you might think, putting pressure or maybe even control on the UN to pitch in with real solutions and no more bs, a few years of no hostilities which would work wonders for your image, stopping aid to asshole dictatorships and bad governments like Egypt and investing it in your own development and just embargoing the crap out of terrorism supporters. Many more.


Also the cold war nut rethoric against Russia and "commies" and "better dead than red" kind of talk I heard Romney going on about is not very smart imo, tensions are high enough as it is.

At least 50% of our oil comes from foreign sources and we're going to run out of domestic oil in at least 30-40 years as is.

What do you plan on replacing it with, or how do you plan to compensate?


Also, what if say, idk, Iran or Pakistan or North Korea declares war on the world?

How do you plan on resolving that; also, if we leave before we're done in Iraq and Afghanistan, won't that just mean things will fall again, creating a power vacuum, that will then be another, possibly even worse war 10-20 years in the future?


Also didn't aid to Egypt allow us to train up their military so they could defend their people from say, Mubarak and his loyals and mercenaries?

Wasn't it a good thing in the end? As the like, aren't innocent Iranians now suffering without U.S. aid in Iran, as well? As necessary as it is and bad as it is to supply an enemy with goods, won't this also cause problems?

[IronsightSniper]

Originally Posted by Manoka

At least 50% of our oil comes from foreign sources and we're going to run out of domestic oil in at least 30-40 years as is.

What do you plan on replacing it with, or how do you plan to compensate?


Also, what if say, idk, Iran or Pakistan or North Korea declares war on the world?

How do you plan on resolving that; also, if we leave before we're done in Iraq and Afghanistan, won't that just mean things will fall again, creating a power vacuum, that will then be another, possibly even worse war 10-20 years in the future?


Also didn't aid to Egypt allow us to train up their military so they could defend their people from say, Mubarak and his loyals and mercenaries?

Wasn't it a good thing in the end? As the like, aren't innocent Iranians now suffering without U.S. aid in Iran, as well? As necessary as it is and bad as it is to supply an enemy with goods, won't this also cause problems?

34.8% of our imports come from canada and mexico. we seriously import more oil from mexico than we do from saudi arabia.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...im0_mbbl_a.htm

[Manoka]

Originally Posted by IronsightSniper

34.8% of our imports come from canada and mexico. we seriously import more oil from mexico than we do from saudi arabia.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...im0_mbbl_a.htm

Uh...

Cool.


This source is a little more comprehensive imo.

http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/f...dependence.cfm

Canada (29%)
Saudi Arabia (14%)
Venezuela (11%)
Nigeria (10%)
Mexico (8%)

[Staccs]

Originally Posted by Manoka

At least 50% of our oil comes from foreign sources and we're going to run out of domestic oil in at least 30-40 years as is.

What do you plan on replacing it with, or how do you plan to compensate?


Also, what if say, idk, Iran or Pakistan or North Korea declares war on the world?

How do you plan on resolving that; also, if we leave before we're done in Iraq and Afghanistan, won't that just mean things will fall again, creating a power vacuum, that will then be another, possibly even worse war 10-20 years in the future?


Also didn't aid to Egypt allow us to train up their military so they could defend their people from say, Mubarak and his loyals and mercenaries?

Wasn't it a good thing in the end? As the like, aren't innocent Iranians now suffering without U.S. aid in Iran, as well? As necessary as it is and bad as it is to supply an enemy with goods, won't this also cause problems?

30-40 years? Domestic oil? In 30-40 years we're running out of oil period.

[Manoka]

Originally Posted by Staccs

30-40 years? Domestic oil? In 30-40 years we're running out of oil period.

I said at least

[IronsightSniper]

Originally Posted by Manoka

Uh...

Cool.


This source is a little more comprehensive imo.

http://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/f...dependence.cfm

Canada (29%)
Saudi Arabia (14%)
Venezuela (11%)
Nigeria (10%)
Mexico (8%)

it's the same site