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Originally Posted by arctic chill
I'm not a citizen of the U.K but my first serious relationship was a girl from small town there and I've spent a significant amount of time there.
The EU is absolutely a joke. As long as you have countries like Brussels and Greece in a "socialistic" type of alliance, you will have great countries like England who pay the cost of the majority. Though a no deal Brexit is not ideal by any means, in my opinion it will still work out for England in the long run. You're talking about saving 100's of millions of pounds a week by exiting.
Immigration, that is a primary problem. There is NO reason a country should be forced to have open borders. I can't believe there are countries, governments, people who are ok with forcing immigrants into any nation. This does nothing but hurt any economy and increase crime rates.
I really do believe England leaving the EU is the first step in the dissolution of the EU. Other large countries will follow suit after England proves that in the long run it is a profitable decision.
I'm not saying it doesn't come without its own problems, such as health care while on holiday or trade agreements, but I really do believe once the logistics are worked out it will benefit England in the long run.
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First of all the name of the country is The United Kingdom. England is a state within the union of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (The last being a disputed occupation). All union members barring England voted to remain within the EU. Since England has the majority in terms of population and referendums are totted up by total population they 51%-49% voted to leave and so the other states must follow.
Basically I dont care what the UK does, imo personally they are trying to go back to the days of the past with their empire and superpower status and they have always cared only about themselves, history has always shown this. What pisses me off as a citizen of The Republic of Ireland is how so focused on themselves that they are, they refuse to look at how they will affect Northern Ireland. There is no hard border on the island of Ireland, there is also no more war. You cannot have one without the other, as about 50% of the population of NI is republican and want to be apart of my country.
Northern Ireland was formed in 1922 as a Protestant state to protect Protestants, Catholics were 2nd class citizens and could not hold public office or hold a state job or recieve a state pension. There was war for 50 years with terrorist militias from both sides blowing up bombs and killing innocent civilians. The Good Friday Agreement signed in the late 90s secured equality and peace for Northern Ireland under the UK control but with my country serving an advisory role in its running if anything ever happened to their own parliament in Belfast.
I accept that the NI is officially a part of the UK, and that they must protect their own borders. It just upsets me that they are so oblivious to this agreement and as to how fragile the peace there is. If their is a hard Brexit, and their is a border on the island of Ireland, well then I can probably garentee we will return to the bad old days of violence, and terror.
There is a lot more on the line here than holiday visas and money.