Battle Over Los Angeles

[Illusion]

This is in regards to what happened over L.A. county on feb, 25th, 1942. See the videos for more detail, probably one of the biggest cover ups every. I remember my aunt telling me about it before i even saw the news reports recently. Check it out, pretty interesting, can't help but wonder why 1500 rounds could not take down a "weather balloon". I'm sure there will be skeptics, but keep in mind, photoshop wasn't around during the time CBS and others gave their reports. I wont say it was a UFO, but i find it hard to believe it was a weather balloon(as stated in actual headlines i reviewed.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzxPkNg9Hg

The event recognized by MSNBC recently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfoY69zOZ8w

[The Arbiter]

LOL. If it was a UFO we raped those aliens.

[Illusion]

Not really since our shells bounce right off them, almost like they had shields.

[The Arbiter]

If we blew one up in 1942 with WWII technology we could sure as fuck do it again.

[Illusion]

But we didn't, they just stood there reflecting our shells (now known as Signal Hill as I used to live near there). During this time, many spotlights were moved to that hill, and since then spotlights surrounded city skies with those lights. This incident gave Signal Hill it's name. But, if it came down to it, I think we'd put up one hell of a fight...I agree with you on that.

[Darth Elecian]

interesting, why haven't i heard of this event before? I'm also surprised it didn't get more attention back in the 1940s and now. Then again, WWII was on everyone's minds then.

[Illusion]

It did happen, seems over the decades, people forget. Even in the 40's though, seems like 1500 rounds would take down a weather balloon. Since the UK started releasing UFO stuff, seems the demand for the US to do the same has gotten quite high. IF there is anything out there to release, I think it'll happen over the next few years due to public demand.

[Melidan]

Interesting... Considering I was an X-Files and UFO nut when I was a kid, im surprised I never heard about this. I really have no idea what this could have been... Speaking for myself, I believe in life outside of this planet. It's practically impossible for there not to be life elsewhere in the universe. But do I believe that they scare people on lonely country roads, make crop circles and kill cows..? No. Any extraterrestrial life is too far away for us to ever find.

And when I mean extraterrestrial, i'm talking about;

http://people.cornellcollege.edu/MMariorenzi08/geo105/images/sr_life_bacteria_en.jpg and http://hazen.gl.ciw.edu/files/HAZENPICS/Trilobites_Tricrepicephalus.jpg

NOT;

http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/ufonaut.gif

[totem]

If we blew one up in 1942 with WWII technology we could sure as fuck do it again.
Right, cause we can upgrade our technology, but dumbshit aliens would still be using second-hand UFO's.

Interesting... Considering I was an X-Files and UFO nut when I was a kid, im surprised I never heard about this. I really have no idea what this could have been... Speaking for myself, I believe in life outside of this planet. It's practically impossible for there not to be life elsewhere in the universe. But do I believe that they scare people on lonely country roads, make crop circles and kill cows..? No. Any extraterrestrial life is too far away for us to ever find.
The most convincing evidence that intelligent life really exists in the universe is that no civilization has tried to contact us.

[Legionnaire]

Sure we exist..I mean, wait, what?

Also, what Melidan said.

[Darth Elecian]

Right, cause we can upgrade our technology, but dumbshit aliens would still be using second-hand UFO's.


The most convincing evidence that intelligent life really exists in the universe is that no civilization has tried to contact us.

hahaha, agreed. :icon_mrgreen: If there are other intelligent civilizations that are FAR more advanced than us, they would find our ways crooked and a bit repulsive and not want to touch us with a 10 foot long stick. :icon_cheesygrin: Maybe they're waiting for us to advance a bit more....and not just in technology?

And Melidan is right, we are more likely to find alien life in the form of bacteria and fossils than we are as in "little green men" or Mr Spock form.

[Assarax]

If we blew one up in 1942 with WWII technology we could sure as fuck do it again.

You obviously didn't watch the videos. Notice the part where it said 1500 round failed to take down the UFO and the Army was angry that the government said it was a weather balloon, because it made them look like a bunch of morons?

Also, what is it with you and blowing shit up? Aliens come down wanting to make contact and we blast em out of the sky... yeah that's the way to do things.

I agree with Totem. The fact that no one has tried to contact humanity is probably the most compelling argument for sentient life on other planets. I mean, the ones that have the ability to come to earth probably spend most of their time observing us, and find that we're a rather brutal, disgusting species.

[The Arbiter]

You obviously didn't watch the videos. Notice the part where it said 1500 round failed to take down the UFO and the Army was angry that the government said it was a weather balloon, because it made them look like a bunch of morons?

Also, what is it with you and blowing shit up? Aliens come down wanting to make contact and we blast em out of the sky... yeah that's the way to do things.

I agree with Totem. The fact that no one has tried to contact humanity is probably the most compelling argument for sentient life on other planets. I mean, the ones that have the ability to come to earth probably spend most of their time observing us, and find that we're a rather brutal, disgusting species.
The fact that they haven't tried to contact humanity means they aren't able to. And if they observe Africa or the Middle East, yes they would conclude that we are a "rather brutal, disgusting species."

[Assarax]

The fact that they haven't tried to contact humanity means they aren't able to. And if they observe Africa or the Middle East, yes they would conclude that we are a "rather brutal, disgusting species."

Americans are disgusting, brutal people too. Don't automatically assume that Americans are automatically better than everyone else. That's the type of crap that makes other countries hate us, and would probably make other species dislike us too.

[Illusion]

Most people either forgot, or they just did a good job keeping it from the history books, that fact alone says something...they tried to hide it.

[The Arbiter]

Americans are disgusting, brutal people too. Don't automatically assume that Americans are automatically better than everyone else. That's the type of crap that makes other countries hate us, and would probably make other species dislike us too.
Americans are better than anyone else. And other countries hate us because we are better. Not like it matters what other countries think, though. We have our allies.

[Melidan]

And Melidan is right, we are more likely to find alien life in the form of bacteria and fossils than we are as in "little green men" or Mr Spock form.

Well, I didnt mean in the form of fossils (but that is a good point also). I meant more in the form of simple creatures such as trilobites, which was the fossil.

[Assarax]

Americans are better than anyone else. And other countries hate us because we are better. Not like it matters what other countries think, though. We have our allies.

Ignorance at its best. Read a history book, Americans are by no means better than everyone else. I fear for the world if people like you will end up running it one day. That's elitist bullshit right there.

Most people either forgot, or they just did a good job keeping it from the history books, that fact alone says something...they tried to hide it.

Indeed, all the UFO "scandals" have been covered up over the years. It's hard to believe that extraterrestrial life doesn't exist, based upon scientific observations, but also think about how many times the government has covered up UFO sightings, crashes, etc. It's happened too many times to believe that "aliens" don't exist. My rule of thumb applies here, as it does in many other places, "Whatever the government tells you, believe the opposite".

Well, I didnt mean in the form of fossils (but that is a good point also). I meant more in the form of simple creatures such as trilobites, which was the fossil.

I can see how that would scare some country bumpkin that just happened upon a trilobite, but it would be easy to prove that it was nothing more than an ancient extinct species. As for Mr. Spock form... a gay asian man? :P Although, we might find life on other planets in the form of bacteria and fossils, but any life that could manage its way here would have to be very advanced, at least by our standards.

[Illusion]

I agree with Totem. The fact that no one has tried to contact humanity is probably the most compelling argument for sentient life on other planets. I mean, the ones that have the ability to come to earth probably spend most of their time observing us, and find that we're a rather brutal, disgusting species.

I agree, it would be a like a Wall Street CEO going out of his way to meet Joe the Plumber. Then again, if they were an intelligent species, they would probably first seek to introduce themselves to our leader. If that leader, which ever president it might have been said, "we're not ready.", then it's possible they may have honored that.


Well, I didnt mean in the form of fossils (but that is a good point also). I meant more in the form of simple creatures such as trilobites, which was the fossil.

Somehow I can't see microbes being the pilots of whatever that was the Army was shooting at.

[The Arbiter]

Assarax, Americans are better. It's called national pride. People like you are ruining America... Everyone in other countries think that their country is the best, it's natural. If we stop losing faith in our country so will everyone else. Liberalism ftl.

[Assarax]

I agree, it would be a like a Wall Street CEO going out of his way to meet Joe the Plumber. Then again, if they were an intelligent species, they would probably first seek to introduce themselves to our leader. If that leader, which ever president it might have been said, "we're not ready.", then it's possible they may have honored that.



Somehow I can't see microbes being the pilots of whatever that was the Army was shooting at.

Exactly. Though they probably wouldn't know exactly where our President was located, which could account for why they ended up over LA instead of over DC. But, if our first instinct is to shoot down the aircraft, I doubt they'd come back any time soon, figuring we need more time to get our act together and stop acting like a bunch of cavemen.

@Arb: There's a difference between having national pride and thinking that we're superior over everyone else. Neo-conservatism ftl. This is the last I'm going to say on this, this thread is about UFOs, not whether or not Americans are better than everyone else.

[Melidan]

Although, we might find life on other planets in the form of bacteria and fossils, but any life that could manage its way here would have to be very advanced, at least by our standards.

I'm pretty sure we have already found it in the form of bacteria.. On Mars and in meteorites etc.. But I really dont know if its possible for a more advanced life form such as humans to be around.. If you think of the entire history of the earth over billions and billions of years.. EVERYTHING had to happen JUST RIGHT for humans to even exist. A flip of the earths magnetic poles, a slight warming or cooling.. literally anything you can imagine that could have gone just a slight bit different millions of years before humans, and we wouldn't be here. Wether its luck or by Gods plan, i'll leave that to you..

If our rise was that fragile, can you imagine how hard it would be to replicate that elsewhere in the universe?

[Melidan]

Somehow I can't see microbes being the pilots of whatever that was the Army was shooting at.

lol, true.. Thats why I really dont think it was a UFO. You ask what then? I have no idea.. I believe in ET life, but not in UFO's I guess..

[The Arbiter]

Exactly. Though they probably wouldn't know exactly where our President was located, which could account for why they ended up over LA instead of over DC. But, if our first instinct is to shoot down the aircraft, I doubt they'd come back any time soon, figuring we need more time to get our act together and stop acting like a bunch of cavemen.

@Arb: There's a difference between having national pride and thinking that we're superior over everyone else. Neo-conservatism ftl. This is the last I'm going to say on this, this thread is about UFOs, not whether or not Americans are better than everyone else.
Obviously it wasn't a fucking UFO. And we are superior to everyone else. That's what makes us Americans and makes them the "rest of the world." We have the most powerful military and we used to have the most progressive population (pre-WWII before liberalism took a strong hold in the colleges). And to the UFO thing, I find it hard to believe that that is a UFO. In the first video you can't see much of anything and you can barely hear the guy talk with the music over him and why would MSNBC just recently report it when it happened 66 years ago?

[Assarax]

I'm pretty sure we have already found it in the form of bacteria.. On Mars and in meteorites etc.. But I really dont know if its possible for a more advanced life form such as humans to be around.. If you think of the entire history of the earth over billions and billions of years.. EVERYTHING had to happen JUST RIGHT for humans to even exist. A flip of the earths magnetic poles, a slight warming or cooling.. literally anything you can imagine that could have gone just a slight bit different millions of years before humans, and we wouldn't be here. Wether its luck or by Gods plan, i'll leave that to you..

If our rise was that fragile, can you imagine how hard it would be to replicate that elsewhere in the universe?

Hard, but not impossible. Impossible maybe in this galaxy or even in the ones immediately surrounding ours, but the universe is exactly that, the universe, it goes on forever. Infinite space, infinite possibilities.

@Arb: If you notice, I was merely speculating on whether or not it was a UFO, presenting ideas about if it was, why they wouldn't have contacted us (ie people with beliefs like yours that we should just blow shit out of the sky as soon as we see it). I'm not going to argue your neo-conservative point on Americans being a superior race, because that will lead us down a path no one likes, filled with comparisons to people that everyone hates (albeit in a logical, historically fact based argument). Suffice to say that I find your attitude very backwards and reminiscent of a certain place in the 1930's and 40's, and America in the 50's.

Again, 1500 rounds couldn't take down this aircraft. There are only a couple explanations for that, 1. The Army sucks at aiming 2. It was an advanced aircraft, possibly an extraterrestrial (logical, since there was no known aircraft that could withstand that barrage back in the days of WWII) or 3. They made the whole thing up (which seems crazy since there were AA guns firing at 3 am). I would lean more towards 1 or 2, and while it would amuse me to no end to hear that the army was so inept that they couldn't hit this aircraft, that just doesn't seem right.

[The Arbiter]

Hard, but not impossible. Impossible maybe in this galaxy or even in the ones immediately surrounding ours, but the universe is exactly that, the universe, it goes on forever. Infinite space, infinite possibilities.
Actually the universe is collapsing, so it's getting smaller.

[Illusion]

Not necessarily, we now know there used to be Warmer weather and water on Mars. Two elements in which rule of thumb suggests life existed at one time. Then we still donno about that face on mars, or what used to look like ancient pyramids. At one time Mars was probably a blue planet like ours. I think there used to be a planet between mars and jupiter, which exploded leaving the asteroid belt we have today and turning mars into a wasteland. For all we know, Mars seeded earth.

In either case, thats two worlds in one solar system, with all the worlds out there, they are now estimating billions...there's got to be something somewhere.

And arb, there is a different between American Pride and being cocky. The state our nation is in right now, doesn't give us much bragging rights. We are not the master race, there is no master race...there are just lucky nations. Not that this has anything to do with this thread.

[Melidan]

Actually the universe is collapsing, so it's getting smaller.

Not proven :P I do know one thing though, none of this will be around to see what really does happen :5eek:

[The Arbiter]

America is the greatest nation that there ever was and hopefully will be for centuries to come.

[Illusion]

Actually the universe is collapsing, so it's getting smaller.

Actually, the universe is expanding, even Einstein knew that back in the 50s...it's common knowledge.

There is however, another galaxy(can't remember which one) that will collide with the milky way in so many billion years...will probably create another big bang.

[The Arbiter]

Not proven :P I do know one thing though, none of this will be around to see what really does happen :5eek:
Hmm.. I thought scientists said it expanded so much it collapsed. I don't know, I'm not really into the whole space-thing... :P

[The Arbiter]

Actually, the universe is expanding, even Einstein knew that back in the 50s...it's common knowledge.

There is however, another galaxy(can't remember which one) that will collide with the milky way in so many billion years...will probably create another big bang.
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/02/universe925.html

[Melidan]

Actually, the universe is expanding, even Einstein knew that back in the 50s...it's common knowledge.

Remembering my Bill Brysons "Short History of Nearly Everything," I believe that this was his answer. He said that we will continue to move further and further away from everything until there is not a star in the sky. Kinda sad..

America is the greatest nation that there ever was and hopefully will be for centuries to come.

QFT

[Melidan]

Speaking for myself, I find it chilling that the universe can just end. If it does collapse back to the size of a proton, as it says in the Stanford article.. I would imagine that it will be another big bang, and the whole thing will just start all over again. Kinda gets you thinking how many times this has happened...

[Illusion]

Ya, there are alot of theories, truth is...nobody knows. I think we can all agree the human race wont last forever, we'll be lucky to make it out of this century. We'll kill ourselves long before anything natural does.

I do feel that if Aliens really existed, and it was proven for fact, it would unite the world like never before(ESPECIALLY if they were hostile in some way). That is, once biblical beliefs were redefined to suit people's own interests.

[Illusion]

Speaking for myself, I find it chilling that the universe can just end. If it does collapse back to the size of a proton, as it says in the Stanford article.. I would imagine that it will be another big bang, and the whole thing will just start all over again. Kinda gets you thinking how many times this has happened...

I agree, this could have happened a million times by now. One thing we know, nature is persistent and has it's cycles. Basically, our entire existence is just dust in the wind.

[Darth Elecian]

Assarax, Americans are better. It's called national pride. People like you are ruining America... Everyone in other countries think that their country is the best, it's natural. If we stop losing faith in our country so will everyone else. Liberalism ftl.

This. I agree with the Arbiter 100% on that. I seriously hate how liberal most college professors are nowadays. Try not to listen to your liberal college professors Assarax when it comes to politics. :icon_mrgreen:

[Melidan]

Ya, there are alot of theories, truth is...nobody knows. I think we can all agree the human race wont last forever, we'll be lucky to make it out of this century. We'll kill ourselves long before anything natural does.

I do feel that if Aliens really existed, and it was proven for fact, it would unite the world like never before(ESPECIALLY if they were hostile in some way). That is, once biblical beliefs were redefined to suit people's own interests.

I agree that humans will be long, long, long, long gone.. I mean LONG gone.

As far as biblical beliefs.. I really dont think it would change mine much. I'm a Christian who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.. But I also believe in Evolution and the big bang.. I really dont find the Old Testament to be all that convincing..

To me, I really dont see it as odd that God would set everything in motion, knowing what would happen, knowing that in the universe things have a natural law and order that has to be followed (formation of the earth, evolution etc).. I'm pretty sure He aint got nuttn but time :P

[Assarax]

Ya, there are alot of theories, truth is...nobody knows. I think we can all agree the human race wont last forever, we'll be lucky to make it out of this century. We'll kill ourselves long before anything natural does.

I do feel that if Aliens really existed, and it was proven for fact, it would unite the world like never before(ESPECIALLY if they were hostile in some way). That is, once biblical beliefs were redefined to suit people's own interests.

Which is why it intrigues me that the government would cover it up. Obviously shows that they didn't have much faith in the American people to handle such information (which shows a lot about the characteristics of America doesn't it). I have a feeling that some religious crazies would end up bowing down to "the all-mighty beings from space" (see country bumpkin reference earlier) and make the rest of us look bad.

I think I heard a theory that the universe cycles through the whole collapsing and expanding thing every once in a while. So, say the Universe is collapsing in on itself. That means that it is too large to sustain itself. As it collapses, it builds up more pressure towards the center, wherever that may be. Once it reaches that central point, the pressure is too great and it explodes outward again (Big Bang Theory), and everything starts all over again.

Then again, what could possibly be beyond the edge of the universe? Is it just more space with nothing, no stars, no planets? It seems kind of odd that the universe could even possibly have an end to it.

[Darth Elecian]

Actually, the universe is expanding, even Einstein knew that back in the 50s...it's common knowledge.

There is however, another galaxy(can't remember which one) that will collide with the milky way in so many billion years...will probably create another big bang.

Its the Andromeda galaxy that will collide with the Milky way in several billion years. It won't create a big bang like you said Illusion instead it create a bigger elliptical or irregular shaped galaxy and send many stars, hurling out of the galaxy if not destroying them first.

[Darth Elecian]

I agree that humans will be long, long, long, long gone.. I mean LONG gone.

As far as biblical beliefs.. I really dont think it would change mine much. I'm a Christian who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.. But I also believe in Evolution and the big bang.. I really dont find the Old Testament to be all that convincing..

To me, I really dont see it as odd that God would set everything in motion, knowing what would happen, knowing that in the universe things have a natural law and order that has to be followed (formation of the earth, evolution etc).. I'm pretty sure He aint got nuttn but time :P

sounds exactly like my friend that just converted to Christianity as well, who doesn't believe in much of the old testament but has his faith in the new testament.

[Assarax]

sounds exactly like my friend that just converted to Christianity as well, who doesn't believe in much of the old testament but has his faith in the new testament.

The old testament is a little sketchy at best, but then again, I personally just view the Bible as a compilation of stories with morals attached to them, meant to help guide people, but not necessarily to build a belief structure on. Anyway, back to the whole space thing.

I hadn't realized that the Milky Way Galaxy would be colliding with the Andromeda Galaxy... learn something new every day, heh.

[Melidan]

Then again, what could possibly be beyond the edge of the universe? Is it just more space with nothing, no stars, no planets? It seems kind of odd that the universe could even possibly have an end to it.

You should really get this book, its fucking awesome and talks all about this stuff.. In a very interesting and non boring way;

http://www.pu-kumamoto.ac.jp/~rlavin/dellib/covers/book/book114.jpg

As far as the edge of the universe..? Heh, well, they say that there is nothing. There is nothing outside the edge, it doesn't even exist. If you can wrap your head around that one, please tell me how LOL.

[Feibelman]

Americans are better than anyone else. And other countries hate us because we are better. Not like it matters what other countries think, though. We have our allies.

OOHRAH Semper Fi. Blow the hell out of those little green bastards. No Visa, no Visit!:M249SAW:

[Melidan]

OOHRAH Semper Fi. Blow the hell out of those little green bastards. No Visa, no Visit!:M249SAW:

ROFL!

[Illusion]

The human race may be ready now, but we all know how slow the government is to change. They are probably still stuck on the war of the worlds belief, back in the 30's when a radio program caused mass hysteria.

I'm a christian too. This will probably conflict with some, one theory suggests that since God isn't from earth, he would technically be an alien. Perhaps one with great technology and the power of the universe in his hand. The Old Testament, was written by man, and interpreted events using what they knew back then. A mere meteor would have been fire falling from the sky, or an orbital bombardment for all we knew back then. There are also stories that most these "aliens" predicted the great flood and wished the human race to be washed away because we failed as slaves....yet some still wanted us to survive and aided in the ark. You can't fit two of every animal on an ark, unless they are in the form of DNA samples. Not saying I believe any of this, just a theory I read about a while back among others.

Another similar theory suggest that we were visited many years ago, and modern man was created via Alien DNA and that of the neanderthal to be slaves...would solve the missing link problem. Then the visitors left once they realized they could not control us, or they simply got all that they came for. If thats true, they could just be checking on us from time to time.

Point is there are alot of theories out there, and nearly any religion can be tamed to fit the truth of alien life if it in fact is proven to exist.

[Darth Elecian]

The human race may be ready now, but we all know how slow the government is to change. They are probably still stuck on the war of the worlds belief, back in the 30's when a radio program caused mass hysteria.

I'm a christian too. This will probably conflict with some, one theory suggests that since God isn't from earth, he would technically be an alien. Perhaps one with great technology and the power of the universe in his hand. The Old Testament, was written by man, and interpreted events using what they knew back then. A mere meteor would have been fire falling from the sky, or an orbital bombardment for all we knew back then. There are also stories that most these "aliens" predicted the great flood and wished the human race to be washed away because we failed as slaves....yet some still wanted us to survive and aided in the ark. You can't fit two of every animal on an ark, unless they are in the form of DNA samples. Not saying I believe any of this, just a theory I read about a while back among others.

Interesting twist on the old Noah and the Ark story. I like it. :icon_mrgreen:

[Melidan]

suggests that since God isn't from earth, he would technically be an alien. Perhaps one with great technology and the power of the universe in his hand. There are also stories that most these "aliens" predicted the great flood and wished the human race to be washed away because we failed as slaves

Did Tom Cruise tell you about this? ROFL!!!!!!!!! JK! I couldn't resist! :D


The Old Testament, was written by man, and interpreted events using what they knew back then

Yes, this is what I believe... Can you really blame them? They had no idea how to explain some of the stuff. Although, I believe there are still a lot of valuable moral teachings in the Old Testament.

[Illusion]

I agree, without religion, mankind would be far more evil. It basically teaches us the difference between good and bad, right and wrong. Despite wars being fought over minor details, and has brought alot of good to the world.

All in all, I think this is a great, no flame, discussion considering the topic and controversy it presents.

[Assarax]

OOHRAH Semper Fi. Blow the hell out of those little green bastards. No Visa, no Visit!:M249SAW:

Dunno if this is a joke or not, but it proves my point.

* Assarax facepalms.

Then again, violence is ALWAYS the answer.

I personally like the theory Illusion presented. It makes a lot of sense, especially from the standpoint of the people that would be writing the Bible. Well, off to gorge myself on Thanksgiving dinner (first full meal I've had in about 3 weeks).

[Illusion]

Enjoy your meal Assarax. We'll be eating a bit later.

[The Arbiter]

I thought Ass lived in Chicago... If so, he's eating dinner at 11:31am... lol

[Melidan]

I thought Ass lived in Chicago... If so, he's eating dinner at 11:31am... lol

Some people are weird like that :awesome:

[Legionnaire]

Guys, guys...you made me hungry...




:awesome:

[Assarax]

We ate at noon... I had to drive 45 minutes to Rockford, Illinois to eat with my family, so hush, Arbiter.

[The Arbiter]

Still ain't dinner time. ;)

[Assarax]

Still ain't dinner time. ;)

Well my family is just that much cooler than yours. Thanksgiving is an all-day affair, we eat at noon, pick all day, eat again and then have dessert, unlike you pussies and your families, where you eat once and are set for the rest of the day. Takes a true iron stomach to eat ALL day.

[Feibelman]

Pwn

[Illusion]

Iron stomach, and a fatass :p

jk


Anyway, back on topic, watched the new indy movie, seems to be centered around aliens being worshiped as gods by the myan people.


PS The marathons on TV sucked this year.

[Assarax]

Iron stomach, and a fatass :p

jk


Anyway, back on topic, watched the new indy movie, seems to be centered around aliens being worshiped as gods by the myan people.


PS The marathons on TV sucked this year.

Heh, I watched the Incredibles with my young cousins today.

[Illusion]

I was forced to rent on PPV. I couldn't even find the classic twilight zone marathon. Brother in law was pissed cuz there wasn't any trek marathons either. TBS felt that the Fresh Prince was the best they can do...pathetic. So now i'm watching South Park. Funny as hell, but the show has GOT to be a borderline FCC violation.

[Hubb]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/trevhubb/office-1.jpg

[Illusion]

Believing and Photoshop are two different things :p

[Melidan]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e187/trevhubb/office-1.jpg

The X-Files poster in Mulders office! :awesome:

[Melidan]

Ya, there are alot of theories, truth is...nobody knows. I think we can all agree the human race wont last forever, we'll be lucky to make it out of this century. We'll kill ourselves long before anything natural does.

I do feel that if Aliens really existed, and it was proven for fact, it would unite the world like never before(ESPECIALLY if they were hostile in some way). That is, once biblical beliefs were redefined to suit people's own interests.

Ohhhhh yea.. I remember now.. The Earth doesn't have to worry about whats going to happen if/when the universe collapses, because in 3-9 billion years the Sun is going to lose its fuel and start expanding (into a Red Giant), which will consume all the inner planets, including Earth. The Sun will later start shedding off and whittle down to a white dwarf, gradually fading from existence.

[The Corporal]

I read the first two pages and have probably rightly assumed that a lot of the other 5 are various random insults. My comments:

You obviously didn't watch the videos. Notice the part where it said 1500 round failed to take down the UFO and the Army was angry that the government said it was a weather balloon, because it made them look like a bunch of morons?

Also, what is it with you and blowing shit up? Aliens come down wanting to make contact and we blast em out of the sky... yeah that's the way to do things.

I agree with Totem. The fact that no one has tried to contact humanity is probably the most compelling argument for sentient life on other planets. I mean, the ones that have the ability to come to earth probably spend most of their time observing us, and find that we're a rather brutal, disgusting species.
Blowing shit up is awesome, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. ;) Totem probably has it right, aliens have either respected a human leader's wish to wait until we're a little more civilized or prefer to stay in the shadows and mutilate cows and make crop circles. Seriously, if I were an alien I'd land in some drunk redneck's field without hesitation - who's going to believe Drunk Farmer Bob when he says an alien probed him? :D

[Illusion]

Just goes to show, we have a long way to go before joining the HIGHER ranks.

[Barrak]

Well, I read the first 3 pages, and aside from laughing my ass off, I dont find the case that its a UFO compelling. For one, 1500 shots? That doesn't mean that 1500 bullets actually hit the target, nor does it mean that it may not have been exagerated. There are reports from the 60s claiming that the military fired thousands of rounds and only managed to kill 6 people.

On top of that, I am not familiar with the construction of weather ballons, but I do know that they are a BITCH to shoot down. Even with those 1500 bullets, they are merely going to poke holes in it, eventually causing the helium gases to leak out, which could happen over a very short or long period of time depending on the material.

ET could, and certainly does exist, but just because there is bacteria on mars, doesnt mean that it originated on mars. It could have came aboard previous spacecraft that were ironicly searching for life on mars.


Now a word on The U.S of A.
The USA is the best country in the world bar none. It is not because that our collective melting pot and ideals make us the 'Master Race' or anything of the sort, but because, in the past 250 years, we have affected the world more than any other previous civilization, and have devoloped a system of government which alows the PEACEFUL transition of power among two parties, all the while guarenteeing all sorts of people the right to participate in their own government, without resulting to the ineffecient mob rule, or stiff one sided Dictatorships.

However, this does not mean that things do not change. In fact, they do. The important part is not remembering that 'America is Great', but rather remembering 'Why America is Great'.

[The Corporal]

I went back and read the whole topic:

As far as the edge of the universe..? Heh, well, they say that there is nothing. There is nothing outside the edge, it doesn't even exist. If you can wrap your head around that one, please tell me how LOL.
One explanation would be that space curves back on itself at the edge of the universe, leaving literally nothing on the other side. To quote Doc Brown, "you're not thinking 4th-dimensionally!" :P

We ate at noon... I had to drive 45 minutes to Rockford, Illinois to eat with my family, so hush, Arbiter.
I can only imagine how awful the traffic was on 90. I don't suppose you took the back roads, otherwise you must have been eating a lot in the car... :)

Now a word on The U.S of A.
The USA is the best country in the world bar none. It is not because that our collective melting pot and ideals make us the 'Master Race' or anything of the sort, but because, in the past 250 years, we have affected the world more than any other previous civilization, and have devoloped a system of government which alows the PEACEFUL transition of power among two parties, all the while guarenteeing all sorts of people the right to participate in their own government, without resulting to the ineffecient mob rule, or stiff one sided Dictatorships.

However, this does not mean that things do not change. In fact, they do. The important part is not remembering that 'America is Great', but rather remembering 'Why America is Great'.
This is the best, shortest, non-partisan take on the matter I think I have ever seen. Boffo, a good one.

[Dark Force]

There are also stories that most these "aliens" predicted the great flood and wished the human race to be washed away because we failed as slaves....yet some still wanted us to survive and aided in the ark. You can't fit two of every animal on an ark, unless they are in the form of DNA samples. Not saying I believe any of this, just a theory I read about a while back among others.

Another similar theory suggest that we were visited many years ago, and modern man was created via Alien DNA and that of the neanderthal to be slaves...would solve the missing link problem. Then the visitors left once they realized they could not control us, or they simply got all that they came for.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/koiduonu/Stargate/Apophis1.png

[tom the pit leader]

Ok a few things.

On the aliens, if they show up, and want war, we lose. Simply because we can't attack, we can only defend. Secondly, armor pircing nukes do wonders against well, everything.

On America, and the west in general, it's hard to argue that our golden age is unparralled in human history. Also, it sounds racisit, but the west and those with a western mindset are the most tollerant and progressive people anywhere in the world. What we have delevoped in the last generation or even last decade is a higher percent of technolgical of growth than at any other time with the possible exception of the neolithc revolution.

And Democracy spearheaded the growth, and America has and I hope will continue to have the strongest democracy in the world.

Not being racist, just calling it like I see it.

[Izubibbywutz]

Funny thing if big bang theory happens again and again...and we could be having this discussion again and again without knowing it...Lol

[The Demon Lord]

I'm sure there will be skeptics, but keep in mind, photoshop wasn't around during the time CBS and others gave their reports.

Sure, but there is Photoshop now, like when this video was put on the internet, which didn't exist during the time CBS and others supposedly gave their reports. No idea if it's real or not, nor do I really care, but don't assume because this purports to be from 1942 that it's clear of the "NOT SHOPPED DOODS".

[Illusion]

Most photos have been confirmed to be the ones taken during the time of interests. I seen the actual newspaper dated back at that time...you can to, should be on microfilm at your public library...under LA times or Press Telegram.