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Lmcfalcon12
11-13-2008, 05:27 AM
I'm not saying I agree, or think that this is true, (to be honest I think it was coincidence), but here is the article below so we can discuss it.

http://health.yahoo.com/news/ap/eu_med_aids_treatment.html

BERLIN - An American man who suffered from AIDS appears to have been cured of the disease 20 months after receiving a targeted bone marrow transplant normally used to fight leukemia, his doctors said.

While researchers — and the doctors themselves — caution that the case might be no more than a fluke, others say it may inspire a greater interest in gene therapy to fight the disease that claims 2 million lives each year. The virus has infected 33 million people worldwide.

Dr. Gero Huetter said Wedneday his 42-year-old patient, an American living in Berlin who was not identified, had been infected with the AIDS virus for more than a decade. But 20 months after undergoing a transplant of genetically selected bone marrow, he no longer shows signs of carrying the virus.

"We waited every day for a bad reading," Huetter said.

It has not come. Researchers at Berlin's Charite hospital and medical school say tests on his bone marrow, blood and other organ tissues have all been clean.

However, Dr. Andrew Badley, director of the HIV and immunology research lab at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., said those tests have probably not been extensive enough.

"A lot more scrutiny from a lot of different biological samples would be required to say it's not present," Badley said.

This isn't the first time marrow transplants have been attempted for treating AIDS or HIV infection. In 1999, an article in the journal Medical Hypotheses reviewed the results of 32 attempts reported between 1982 and 1996. In two cases, HIV was apparently eradicated, the review reported.

Huetter's patient was under treatment at Charite for both AIDS and leukemia, which developed unrelated to HIV.

As Huetter — who is a hematologist, not an HIV specialist — prepared to treat the patient's leukemia with a bone marrow transplant, he recalled that some people carry a genetic mutation that seems to make them resistant to HIV infection. If the mutation, called Delta 32, is inherited from both parents, it prevents HIV from attaching itself to cells by blocking CCR5, a receptor that acts as a kind of gateway.

"I read it in 1996, coincidentally," Huetter told reporters at the medical school. "I remembered it and thought it might work."

Roughly one in 1,000 Europeans and Americans have inherited the mutation from both parents, and Huetter set out to find one such person among donors that matched the patient's marrow type. Out of a pool of 80 suitable donors, the 61st person tested carried the proper mutation.

Before the transplant, the patient endured powerful drugs and radiation to kill off his own infected bone marrow cells and disable his immune system — a treatment fatal to between 20 and 30 percent of recipients.

He was also taken off the potent drugs used to treat his AIDS. Huetter's team feared that the drugs might interfere with the new marrow cells' survival. They risked lowering his defenses in the hopes that the new, mutated cells would reject the virus on their own.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infections Diseases in the U.S., said the procedure was too costly and too dangerous to employ as a firstline cure. But he said it could inspire researchers to pursue gene therapy as a means to block or suppress HIV.

"It helps prove the concept that if somehow you can block the expression of CCR5, maybe by gene therapy, you might be able to inhibit the ability of the virus to replicate," Fauci said.

David Roth, a professor of epidemiology and international public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said gene therapy as cheap and effective as current drug treatments is in very early stages of development.

"That's a long way down the line because there may be other negative things that go with that mutation that we don't know about."

Even for the patient in Berlin, the lack of a clear understanding of exactly why his AIDS has disappeared means his future is far from certain.

"The virus is wily," Huetter said. "There could always be a resurgence."

(This version CORRECTS spelling of doctor's name to Huetter throughout.)

afrey22
11-13-2008, 05:32 AM
Ha. London has a school of Hygiene.

Lmcfalcon12
11-13-2008, 06:11 AM
Ha. London has a school of Hygiene.

Yeah...thought that was kinda funny too...

But no school of dentistry...lol.

Melidan
11-13-2008, 06:30 AM
Ha. London has a school of Hygiene.

ROFL!! Quote of week.

In regards to OP, hopefully this leads to bigger and better things.

The Corporal
11-13-2008, 07:46 AM
A friend of mine saw this story and said that two other leukemia/AIDS patients exhibited a similar effect a while back but died from the leukemia. If this works, hooray for science!

Lord Necronomis
11-13-2008, 07:54 AM
There already is a proven cure for AIDS, it's just letting AIDS win. >.> If you have 0 immune system, and let your system crap out, AIDS can't reproduce. Just keep the person in a completely sterile environment. I think only one person has ever been recorded to recover from AIDS that way, so yea, good luck surviving. <.<

Illusion
11-13-2008, 08:25 AM
Stem Cell research is providing potential cures. It's complicated, but I read that there is a drug that prevents the virus from binding to healthy cells. A similar approach, is to remove the cells, separate the virus from them, then re-inject the cells into the host. I think we'll have a cure within the next decade.

Curtis16
11-13-2008, 08:33 AM
But even so it is SOOOO expensive that most people cant afford it...

Imperial
11-13-2008, 08:42 AM
But even so it is SOOOO expensive that most people cant afford it...

Germans have a universal, multi-payer health care system. It would only be expensive for Americans <_<

AzureShadow
11-13-2008, 12:19 PM
Germans have a universal, multi-payer health care system. It would only be expensive for Americans <_<

Then the US should adopt that healthcare system. >_>

Dark Force
11-13-2008, 12:22 PM
Germans have a universal, multi-payer health care system. It would only be expensive for Americans <_<

There is an easy way to solve that expense without the univeral healthcare system

tom the pit leader
11-13-2008, 01:15 PM
This would be impressive if it is real. And I agree that stem cells do offer the chance to give everyone the mutation for this to work, but that could still be years away.

And on a side note, if we did cure AIDS, how will we kill all the gays?

:machinegun: I just don't think more of these will cut it.:D

The Arbiter
11-13-2008, 01:22 PM
And on a side note, if we did cure AIDS, how will we kill all the gays?
Good ol' shotguns. :woot:

Melidan
11-13-2008, 03:48 PM
Why does socialism seem to seep into every thread on this board..

hockeyD13
11-13-2008, 03:58 PM
Why does socialism seem to seep into every thread on this board..

lol

Lmcfalcon12
11-13-2008, 04:00 PM
Bottomline, people need to use protection. That'd be the best cure/prevention for AIDS.

hockeyD13
11-13-2008, 04:05 PM
yup

Illusion
11-13-2008, 04:21 PM
Bottomline, people need to use protection. That'd be the best cure/prevention for AIDS.

Could, but one thing I never understood is that, well....if you don't trust the p*ssy, then why are you f*cking the p*ssy? I guess some guys don't care, just gotta have it. Anyway, humor aside, truth is spreading from man to women and vice versa with one meet isn't always easy. It's a fact that it's easier for a women to catch than a guy from a women. Gays however can spread quite easily because there is no special antibodies in the anal canal that makes transmission difficult. There is also an easier passage to bloodlines there, that the vagina doesn't have.

hockeyD13
11-13-2008, 04:26 PM
wow, I didnt know that

The Arbiter
11-13-2008, 04:27 PM
I knew that, since we just finished an AIDS unit in health. :P

hockeyD13
11-13-2008, 04:28 PM
we dont go that far into detail :P

Illusion
11-13-2008, 04:30 PM
I don't remember the exact numbers, it's something like man and women, odds of transmission are 1 in 1000, but odds in anal sex is like 1 in 10. Of course, these are statistics, a condom is the best protection one can have as the first time could be it. Not worth the risk when you consider the ramifications.

hockeyD13
11-13-2008, 04:53 PM
and the 1/1000000 condem tares

Illusion
11-13-2008, 05:05 PM
and the 1/1000000 condem tares

There is a number directly on the condom that gives you it's durability rating. Then again, you probably never noticed the number because you never have to roll it back far enough to see it. :p

hockeyD13
11-13-2008, 05:22 PM
thats fuunny .... :awesome:

Lord Necronomis
11-13-2008, 06:37 PM
. . .go from a story about curing a disease, to potential socialism debate, to questioning the size of a legionnaires pen0|2. woowwww. . .