Alexander Tytler, prophet?

[Melidan]

I think I may have posted this before, but I wanted to make it known again. How eerily similar does his breakdown sound? Makes you wonder if when he said this in 1790 he was looking into a crystal ball.. Think about United States history, all the way back to the pilgrims and why they came, then move forward.

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.

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[Lmcfalcon12]

Well this sure ain't McCain. Obama is the only one who seriously talks about improving the economy and bringing jobs back to America. McCain says we'll needlessly be in Iraq for 1000 years and we'll get alternative fuels. Unless we are going to get a billion new jobs by flaunting alternative fuels, perhaps we should consider Obama.

I'm going to be honest, if there was a third candidate with a good chance, I would be more apt to vote for them. I don't really like either candidate, but mine went down early, so all I have left is Obama. Mainly because I don't want to be in Iraq anymore...and by the way, I'm still at a draftable age.

[FreeMason]

What's wrong with bondage...? :D

[Plutarch]

Alexis de Tocqueville said essentially the same thing; not sure as to the source, but I remember him saying something along the lines of "the American republic will survive until the Congress learns that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

[Villalba]

Is like George Washington, when he warned about the party system, and the increased power of government.

When he said liberty to abundance, i think that makes part in the Raegan and Clinton eras when the economy ran smoothly, and people had a lot of money.

From abundance to complacency, i think that makes it in the late 1990's No one was aware of upcoming trouble, and almost everyone was buying their third house, and fourth car.

Apathy, here is an example, the rising couchpotatoe culture. If no one knows what that means simply send me a pm.

From apathy to dependance means people are overly dependant on the economy, and cannot survive without it, if the economy falls, it becomes harder for people to live, and those that had all those 5 houses, and 4 cars, can't anymore, and they become dessperate, because they are drugged on luxury.

And the final one which is dependance to bondage, nothing can be worst, and i hope it will never happen.

[bigdaddychacha]

And the final one which is dependance to bondage, nothing can be worst, and i hope it will never happen.
I gotta be with Freemason on this one, I can't wait for my next bondage experience! (PB, where are you with your duck tape now?!?) :shutup:

With regards to buying your own election with government money, that's what I've considered Bush to be doing every time he enacts wildly irresponsible tax breaks to everyone and tries to make them permanent (especially leading up to the 2004 election) while continuing to outspent any president in recent history with his wars, missile systems to stop terrorists with box-cutters, exhorbitant aid packages to nations that cause us as many problems as they solve, subsidising oil companies, dreams of a Mars Mission, etc, etc, etc. Everyone wanted that $300, but now the debt is coming back when he wants to use $700,000,000,000.00 of our money to help private institutions that are "too big to fail." Guess what, America? He's taking more money right there than he ever gave back to most of you in the past 8 years!

[The Corporal]

For what may be the first time, I agree with (some of) the above. I can't fathom why Bush could think he'd get away with ramming the bailout down our throats without opposition. Somewhere between the financial institutions, the Dept. of the Treasury, the White House, and the American people someone is lying their ass off to get this retarded bailout passed.

[Pimptastic]

I dont see making guesses based on a 95% historicaly proven probability as prophet like. For example tomorrow the earth will spin like it did the day before, future yes but prophet material no.

Also 'money corrupts all' and 'everyone has a price' and other money/corruption phrases but really money and who controls it has helped or been the downfall of many many people in the past like the french revolution with its famous 'the people have no money for bread - so let them eat cake' and the english civil war with oliver cromwell started over the king at the times over spending and then even back to the ancient greeks money fuels the flames for the downfall of the senate system they had.

I dont think america will go crazy like that tho but I think states taking power back or making single state banks could happen so that all the money isnt in '1 pot' as it currently is.

[leninrocks244]

What's wrong with bondage...? :D

Alot of things.

[Villalba]

Depends on what kind of bondage lol.

It is all self fullfilling prophecy.

[leninrocks244]

Depends on what kind of bondage lol.

It is all self fullfilling prophecy.

All bondage is fucked up.

[Villalba]

Nooo good bondage is...
You know what, ask PB about that lol.