Obama picks Joe Biden as VP running mate

[Imperial]

Obama has chosen Joe Biden to be his running mate. Should prove to be an interesting ticket.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26010055/

[IronsightSniper]

Who the hell is Joe Biden?

[FreeMason]

Good. Biden is actually a decent guy.

[DarkNoble]

and he just might have hurt himself in the election, depending on who McCain picks.....

my money is on Hilary Clinton....yep that is Crazy but I think it may happen.

[bigdaddychacha]

and he just might have hurt himself in the election, depending on who McCain picks.....

my money is on Hilary Clinton....yep that is Crazy but I think it may happen.

You think that McCain will choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate?!?
I would bet every last cent that I will ever earn in my life that she is the last person he would pick. There wouldn't be a better way for him to destroy the conservative base support he may have accrued. Anybody remember that, "How do we beat the bitch?" comment McCain fielded with a chuckle?

[Melidan]

THIS IS PURE EPIC WIN for Conservatives!

Good. Biden is actually a decent guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1vDlfxr-e4

Who can forget this gem from Biden?

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,"

Heh..

"The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”

[Lmcfalcon12]

Who the hell is Joe Biden?

Exactly. I've never heard of him. I think he's a fool for not picking Hillary. We all put up with a bitch we don't like, this would be no different and this would have been an easy ride into the White House I think.

I think now with this crap ass decision, Obama and McCain are about even now. People won't like Obama's VP choice, and not a whole lot of people like McCain's negative campaigning or the fact that he constantly flaunts being a war hero.

[James Davis]

It's a double-edged sword. Biden is a tremendous debater and is articulate most of the time. He also tends to create sound bites for the opposition, as Mel said above. Additionally, he doesn't bring any additional E.V.'s to Obama's column. Finally, once this campaign starts, it will become apparent to to anyone paying attention that Biden is far more qualified to be president than Obama is. By picking Biden, Obama risks being overshadowed.

I have no idea how this will turn out. It will be interesting to see who McCain picks in response. Off the top of my head, Romney seems like the only one who would be a good match for Biden in the debates and on the campaign trail.

[FreeMason]

THIS IS PURE EPIC WIN for Conservatives!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1vDlfxr-e4

Who can forget this gem from Biden?



Heh..

Okay, yes, he does just say what he thinks with little to no thought process. But that could be a good thing. Think about it: a politician who actually says what he's thinking. And as for that quote about Obama and Clinton, I think he was dead on. I know plenty of liberals who supported Obama fiercely who now are pretty much in the independant aisle now because of Obama's more recent policy decisions. I even supported Obama as the lesser of two evils until I became better acquainted with his policy. I think Biden would be a good VP, and probably a good president (definately the best Democrat candidate), though based on his speaking history Biden is probably not the most intelligent choice. He is, however, the only politician I can think of who actually talks straight.

[Hubb]

Okay, yes, he does just say what he thinks with little to no thought process..

I'd like to thank Barack Obama for ensuring the Republicans retain the White House.

If Obama had picked someone with less ties to the Beltway and someone who doesn't play the political game, then it may have been trouble.

The GOP Machine is going to have a field day with Biden.

[Illusion]

Biden makes up in all the areas Obama lacked, it was a logical choice. Problem is, most voters aren't logical, they are spontaneous back stabbers who will change thier vote at the last minute. Now they need to both hit the road and get his name out there.

[The Corporal]

I'd like to thank Barack Obama for ensuring the Republicans retain the White House.

If Obama had picked someone with less ties to the Beltway and someone who doesn't play the political game, then it may have been trouble.

The GOP Machine is going to have a field day with Biden.
^This. Obama was trying to portray himself as an outsider, a new kind of politician free of the insider bullshit that 90% of Congress suffers from. Selecting Joe Biden throws that image out the window.

It's a double-edged sword. Biden is a tremendous debater and is articulate most of the time. He also tends to create sound bites for the opposition, as Mel said above. Additionally, he doesn't bring any additional E.V.'s to Obama's column. Finally, once this campaign starts, it will become apparent to to anyone paying attention that Biden is far more qualified to be president than Obama is. By picking Biden, Obama risks being overshadowed.

I have no idea how this will turn out. It will be interesting to see who McCain picks in response. Off the top of my head, Romney seems like the only one who would be a good match for Biden in the debates and on the campaign trail.
^Also this. Any time Joe Biden speaks you have a roughly 50% chance of him delivering a great speech or saying something politically retarded. Despite all that, he will look more suited to be President than Obama, and that is really, really bad for Obama. Of course, he was kinda screwed from the beginning with that: if he picked someone equally or more incompetent than him people would have lambasted him for being unable to pick people who can get the job done but if he picked someone more qualified than him, he looks like a fool compared to his running mate. Hillary may have given Obama the best chance of winning, but they wouldn't have lasted 4 years without someone resigning or being assassinated.

As for a good matchup against Biden, I think both Romney and Liebermann would be effective. I would much prefer Romney, but if McCain chose Liebermann he would more or less guarantee a victory and could probably run the country about as well as he would with the other non-Romney VP candidates. All I know is that McCain will not pick Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty because the GOP needs to nuture the idea of Republicans in Minnesota government, a place they haven't done as well recently.

[DarkNoble]

wait and see......
wait and see....

[Melidan]

[QUOTE=The Corporal;93534I would much prefer Romney, but if McCain chose Liebermann he would more or less guarantee a victory and could probably run the country about as well as he would with the other non-Romney VP candidates. [/QUOTE]

I disagree there... Liebermann = defeat in November. Conservatives already are having to swallow hard to vote for McCain.. Picking a guy that is only conservative on the war will be the final straw. It's Romney or defeat.

[Illusion]

^This. Obama was trying to portray himself as an outsider, a new kind of politician free of the insider bullshit that 90% of Congress suffers from. Selecting Joe Biden throws that image out the window.

Nothing wrong with having the best of both worlds at your disposal.

Biden has a clean record, there isn't much they can nail him with. McCain called biden to congratulate him, to call him a friend and remind the media about the attacks Biden made against Obama during the debates...but even if Obama chose Clinton the same thing would have happened but 10 fold...McCain would have brought up all the trash they bashed each other during the primaries. Obama needed someone with political experience and world relations, he got just that. I think the republican party is concerned and is working on a counter strike right this minute. Let me note, i'm independent, I don't care about the party. But right now all i see coming from McCain is personal attacks with a bunch of he said she said stuff, and talking about how things aren't so bad with a republican administration...anybody with a half a brain knows things are not alright. I'm afraid that if McCain gets in, nothing is going to change as his views are not much different than Bush's. Though I dont know what type of change Obama has in mind, at least it's a change. At this point i'll take a chance on any change, and from what i've gathered locally where I live, a lot of people are not voting for him for one reason...racism. America and the world needs to get back on course, and if that change comes from the first elected black american...then so be it as there is alot on the line right now, we can't afford to keep going down the beaten path.

[leninrocks244]

Who the hell is Joe Biden?

[The Corporal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden

Six-term senator from Delaware, member of the Judiciary and Foreign Relations committees, 78% lifetime liberal voting record, anti-death penalty, anti-drilling, anti-gun, pro-illegal immigration (including giving Social Security benefits to illegals), supported the Patriot Act, pro-union, pro-choice (but against partial-birth abortion), and pro-gay marriage. His plan for Iraq is to forcibly separate the three main ethnic groups into separate zones and then pull out all of our security forces. He supports a two-state system in Israel. He wants to deal with Iran diplomatically and voted against listing the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps as a terrorist group, but is not opposed to "strategically placed sanctions". He actively supports the Cuban trade embargo.

[leninrocks244]

Funny how he supports most Liberal ideas but then he goes and supports the Patriot Act.

[Imperial]

And the trade embargo.

[leninrocks244]

And the trade embargo.

That too.

[The Arbiter]

Funny how I disagree with everything Biden stands for. Pretty much everything in The Corporal's post I am opposite of Biden.

[leninrocks244]

Funny how I disagree with everything Biden stands for. Pretty much everything in The Corporal's post I am opposite of Biden.

Except the embargo on Cuba and the Patriot Act.

[The Arbiter]

Except the embargo on Cuba and the Patriot Act.
Yeah. Why wouldn't you want an embargo on Cuba? Those people had missiles pointed at the US. Plus, they are communist. *shudders*

[hockeyD13]

Anyone watch the colbern report

[leninrocks244]

Yeah. Why wouldn't you want an embargo on Cuba? Those people had missiles pointed at the US. Plus, they are communist. *shudders*

China's communist. And so is Vietnam. We still trade with them, and we fought both of them in actual battle.

[leninrocks244]

Anyone watch the colbern report

Colbert is a genius.

[FreeMason]

Colbert ftw and for president!

[leninrocks244]

Colbert ftw and for president!

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[The Arbiter]

China's communist. And so is Vietnam. We still trade with them, and we fought both of them in actual battle.
China didn't hold missiles pointed towards us. Neither did Vietnam. It is VERY unfortunate that we pulled out of the Vietnam war and let those poor people get overrun by the commies.

[leninrocks244]

China didn't hold missiles pointed towards us. Neither did Vietnam. It is VERY unfortunate that we pulled out of the Vietnam war and let those poor people get overrun by the commies.

But they actually killed our men.

[The Arbiter]

But they actually killed our men.
And we killed some of theirs. The Cubans held missiles pointing at our soil, at our CIVILIANS. That is not cool.

[leninrocks244]

And we killed some of theirs. The Cubans held missiles pointing at our soil, at our CIVILIANS. That is not cool.

But it's cool to trade with people who actually killed Americans?

[hockeyD13]

Colbert ftw and for president!

I agree :D