View Full Version : Price of Gas, discuss.
IronsightSniper
07-20-2008, 12:44 PM
1 Picture explains it all.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i69/LordJacky/1216586451136.jpg
leninrocks244
07-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Yeah, that says enough.
FreeMason
07-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Damn OPEC.
DDEShare
07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Yeah...that sucks bad. 1.50ish in Canada for 1 litre, around 1.25 for a pop. The fine print says the Coke's from Australia XD.
James Davis
07-20-2008, 09:28 PM
The Republicans and Democrats need to pull their collective heads out of their asses and stop bitching about whose fault it is and do something about it.
The Corporal
07-21-2008, 05:45 AM
No argument there. I miss the days when I had trouble cracking the $20 mark for a tank of gas. Now I'm trying to avoid $50 for a tank...
Midas
07-21-2008, 06:04 AM
We filled up a bit yesterday so we could make it home and it was 20.00 for 5.039 gallons... basically $4/gal.
and it gets worse that was relatively cheap gas.... I've seen 4.15 in places and 3.85-3.90 in others. Imagine this most of the people go to the 3.85-3.90 than the others! Who would have though!
Sciarretti
07-21-2008, 06:15 AM
well i only get gas from BP for politcal reasons, citgo is from venezuala and i refuse to support thier "socialist" leader. and exxon and all others are middle eastern. so ill pay a little more at BP for gas.
FreeMason
07-21-2008, 07:11 AM
I had to fill up less than an hour ago, and it cost me $100 to fill up my tank. And that was cheap! It's ridiculous. $3.88 per gallon, and I have a 26 gallon tank, I'm shelling out a hell of alot of cash just to stay mobile.
Snickers
07-21-2008, 12:20 PM
Wel according to the Democratic led congress your gas prices are just going to go up. They are pushing for another tax on gas raising it either 10% or another 10 Cents, forgot which one. So thank your democrats for solving our solution by raising taxes on it so we have to pay more. They want to restrict our use of private transportation and theyll do it through gas prices so we become dependent on them for transportation (IE: buses and other modes of public transportation) So we cant go on our little daily outings to stores or with friends... The Democrats are not offering any reliable way of lowering gas prices. The biofuels and solar and all that stuff they wont will not solve it, those are even less efficient. Im fine with researching it and finding stuff but that will still take years to do so in the mean time drill here get our own oil and use it till a good reliable alternative is found.
I pay nearly $4.60 per gallon in CA. So gas prices suck.
FreeMason
07-21-2008, 12:34 PM
So thank your democrats for solving our solution by raising taxes on it so we have to pay more.
Thank whose democrats?
leninrocks244
07-21-2008, 01:32 PM
I feel sorry for truckers. My cousin's friend is a trucker and it costs over $100 to fill up his whole truck.
leninrocks244
07-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Thank whose democrats?
x2
Snickers
07-21-2008, 02:30 PM
The democrats in Congress in the USA duh! Who else would I be talking about? I dont think England has Democrats... They have different terms I believe.
ShadowPhoenix
07-21-2008, 02:35 PM
It's over $50 to fill my gas tank...ugh. I can't afford to do it on my crappy-pay job anymore. Guess it's back to walking and biking to work for me.
IronsightSniper
07-21-2008, 02:53 PM
What?
You guys should seriously live in California.
We went to fill up the other day at Costco(we have a van) and it costed us over $90 to fill up.
Zagato
07-21-2008, 03:23 PM
Gas prices are indeed hurting. Due to the introduction of a new carbon tax, gasoline in my province went up to the equivalent of $5.60 per gallon. My four by four costs nearly $108 to fill up.
The Corporal
07-21-2008, 03:33 PM
well i only get gas from BP for politcal reasons, citgo is from venezuala and i refuse to support thier "socialist" leader. and exxon and all others are middle eastern. so ill pay a little more at BP for gas.
ExxonMobil is an American company and Shell is Dutch, but I get where you're coming from. The day I found out Shit-go was owned by the Venezuelan government I stopped taking my business there*. There was one time I had to get gas from Citgo, but I was running on fumes with no gas stations for another 15 miles....
*And before anyone says anything about the Citgo franchise owners (I heard a commercial this morning telling me I should buy their Commie gasoline because it supports the store owners), they can go independent or switch to another brand if they have any respect for their own country.
Zagato
07-21-2008, 04:46 PM
they can go independent or switch to another brand if they have any respect for their own country.
I don't see how that is disrespectful to your country. Unless the company has the hammer and sickle for a logo or Venezuala is invading Panama, then people will be turned off buying their fuel.
I mean, Wal-Mart has a dodgy record. But I still shop there.
Sciarretti
07-21-2008, 07:20 PM
I don't see how that is disrespectful to your country. Unless the company has the hammer and sickle for a logo or Venezuala is invading Panama, then people will be turned off buying their fuel.
I mean, Wal-Mart has a dodgy record. But I still shop there.
well i am a communist, i just hate thier ignorant leader.
and as for only buying BP, i never knew about shell and they're not around me really so thier not an option, and exxon, they are american which explains why they made the biggest profit of any american company, they signify americas gred and i refuse to help spoil thier stock holders.
The Corporal
07-22-2008, 05:41 AM
I agree, $40 billion in a quarter is a lot. But they sold $460 billion worth of product. Look at the ratio between the two (and the same for other American companies) and then tell me if they are as evil as people say.
The reason supporting Venezuelan Communism is bad is because Hugo Chavez leads the country, Chavez is destroying any personal freedoms of the citizens in his country, and he also hates America with a burning passion. Why would you consciously support someone like that is beyond me.
FreeMason
07-22-2008, 05:55 AM
Profit margin doesn't matter. What matters is the amount of money they're taking in. The gas prices are outrageous. The companies should be thinking about their customers more than their wallets. Would it kill them to lower their profits to 30 billion per quarter?
Zagato
07-22-2008, 01:35 PM
and he also hates America with a burning passion.
I guess I can see why he does. But to think, after all those years, he should've forgotten about the past and moved on.
The only thing he's doing that affects the American people is keeping Communist Cuba out of the fire. Which annoys the American foreign policy and the thousands of Cuban exiles in Florida.
Snickers
07-22-2008, 03:16 PM
I dont balme the gas companies for the high prices. You all have to understand that Forign countries charge a certain amount for however many gallons. The gas companies have to compensate for that cost to even continue buying oil from there. Plus You have to add in the federal and local state taxes on top of that. The oil companys actually make very little. I think they only make like 3% on the price of gas. Now if we drilled our own oil in the US, they wouldnt have to pay such large amounts to import the oil thus the price of gas will lower. Thank the other countries for high gas prices, not our own. Remember we arnt the only country being charged loads of money on oil.
Lmcfalcon12
07-22-2008, 03:50 PM
Thank whose democrats?
Yeah seriously. Fuck the Republicans. Our country is doing shittier in the last 8 years than ever before. Who was in office?? Republicans.
Sciarretti
07-22-2008, 08:32 PM
Yeah seriously. Fuck the Republicans. Our country is doing shittier in the last 8 years than ever before. Who was in office?? Republicans.
which is ironic becuase our economy did well under clinton and he was a economic fiscal conservative, only spending when america had it.
but the government isnt to blame it is OPEC.
DDEShare
07-22-2008, 08:49 PM
Is it just Canada, or did prices just fall all of a sudden? We dropped almost 10 cents per litre, lol.
IronsightSniper
07-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Is it just Canada, or did prices just fall all of a sudden? We dropped almost 10 cents per litre, lol.
Light Sweet Crude dropped to ~$13X a gallon.
That's probably why.
Azati Prime
07-22-2008, 11:42 PM
Profit margin doesn't matter. What matters is the amount of money they're taking in. The gas prices are outrageous. The companies should be thinking about their customers more than their wallets. Would it kill them to lower their profits to 30 billion per quarter?
Welcome to a capitalist society. Companies aren't here to think about their customers. The price of gas is what you're willing to pay and when you consider how addicted we are to the stuff, it's amazing prices aren't higher. Don't like how expensive it is? Stop buying so much gas.
Izubibbywutz
07-23-2008, 06:46 AM
I LIKE TO NUKE THE ARABS! THEN WE CAN ALL GET OIL!
FreeMason
07-23-2008, 06:55 AM
I say we take up picket signs and gather friends and neighbors and protest at gas stations. Stop people from buying gas. See what kind of profits OPEC and gas companies are making after that. Or better yet...
GAS RIOTS!!!
leninrocks244
07-23-2008, 07:15 AM
I say we take up picket signs and gather friends and neighbors and protest at gas stations. Stop people from buying gas. See what kind of profits OPEC and gas companies are making after that. Or better yet...
GAS RIOTS!!!
Do you know how fast the economy will go under? The end of the world really WILL happen.
FreeMason
07-23-2008, 07:20 AM
Do you know how fast the economy will go under? The end of the world really WILL happen.
The economy's already going under, and it's partly because of the high gas prices.
Scrawney
07-23-2008, 07:38 AM
yes but why are you taking it out on the local gas station? (I don't know about the rest of you, but most of our gas stations are run like mom n pop shops.
FreeMason
07-23-2008, 08:16 AM
Gas stations around me are basically extensions of the gas companies.
Zagato
07-23-2008, 09:19 AM
Why don't you guys... you know, buy a 25 year old diesel car?
Then convert it to run on used vegetable oil.
Lmcfalcon12
07-23-2008, 12:37 PM
which is ironic becuase our economy did well under clinton and he was a economic fiscal conservative, only spending when america had it.
but the government isnt to blame it is OPEC.
Agreed. I'll never deny that OPEC is largely responsible.
The Corporal
07-23-2008, 03:23 PM
Yeah seriously. Fuck the Republicans. Our country is doing shittier in the last 8 years than ever before. Who was in office?? Republicans.
Before telling half of the country to fuck off, please look at which party has held the majority in Congress the last few years. Then please look for any real signs of progress in legislation to come out of Congress. You'll find all the answers you need right there. Since the midterm elections in 2006, Congress' approval rating has never been higher than 44% (Feb. 07) and hasn't been above 30% for more than a week straight since May of 2007. In fact, it has dipped as low as 13% (many polls were below 18%) and hasn't been above 25% in the last 6 months. But the only realistic choices for our next president come from Congress? I find that to be heinous. I also find your singling out of one party (which isn't even in control of Congress) to be heinous. Much of the government is to blame for our problems, not just the part you don't like.
leninrocks244
07-23-2008, 05:22 PM
The economy's already going under, and it's partly because of the high gas prices.
But for all transportation to stop completely will make it worse.
FreeMason
07-24-2008, 06:21 AM
But for all transportation to stop completely will make it worse.
We have to do something. The government's not doing shit and the only way for regular citizens to get the prices lower is to lower consumption.
leninrocks244
07-24-2008, 12:16 PM
We have to do something. The government's not doing shit and the only way for regular citizens to get the prices lower is to lower consumption.
Going back into the Dark Ages is not going to solve anything. All the work that was made for hundreds of years would be wasted.
FreeMason
07-24-2008, 12:23 PM
Stopping driving is not going back into the dark ages.
leninrocks244
07-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Stopping driving is not going back into the dark ages.
All transportation is going to stop, right? We already know who's going to deliver goods to the store, but the question is that how is it going to get to the store? Pulling a semi-truck with a mountain bike? The economy will collapse, people will lose jobs, and the economy will be royally fucked in the ass. I'm all for going green, but to stop driving all together is insane.
The Corporal
07-24-2008, 03:54 PM
Totally stopping all petroleum-based transportation for more than a day would present major problems, and probably not for the oil companies. However, for people who are able (live in cities or are otherwise close to work/school/public transportation) a day, two days, or even a week of not buying gas would send a message to people in the oil business (the government, the oil companies, oil-producing countries) that we as a people are getting really pissed off. It would certainly get the message across faster than 4-12 months of slowly declining consumption.
King Seifer Almasy
07-24-2008, 05:03 PM
something is going on because in my neck of the woods gas dropped 16 cents with in a couple days
DDEShare
07-24-2008, 08:23 PM
I read somewhere that the US has around 40 billion dollars worth of gas stored in their stockpile/real life warchest. Releasing it will make the price go down, but...good for us consumers, not so good for the oil companies. I think the government has responded, and released some of the gas. Another reason why prices have fallen recently is because the companies like Shell raised their prices, together with all other gas companies. They were discovered and forced to lower prices. All a bunch of greedy bastards...
King Seifer Almasy
07-24-2008, 09:56 PM
no what you are talking about isn't gas they have oil stored away and they say if we releases our stock pile of oil it wouldn't help much any way and from what im hearing is that gas will be down to 3.50 a gallon by summers end i will believe that when i see it
Lmcfalcon12
07-25-2008, 05:27 AM
Stopping driving is not going back into the dark ages.
There's only so many places you can go by foot or on bike. If you're in the USA, you are well aware that gas prices are slowly falling...*knock wood*. So to tell you the truth, if its going down...don't poke the bear. Let's not whine toooooo much because it always could be worse.
"Could be worse, gonna get worse."
FreeMason
07-25-2008, 05:39 AM
There's only so many places you can go by foot or on bike. If you're in the USA, you are well aware that gas prices are slowly falling...*knock wood*. So to tell you the truth, if its going down...don't poke the bear. Let's not whine toooooo much because it always could be worse.
"Could be worse, gonna get worse."
True. And thank god it's going down. I just hope it keeps going down.
The Corporal
07-25-2008, 05:50 AM
I read somewhere that the US has around 40 billion dollars worth of gas stored in their stockpile/real life warchest. Releasing it will make the price go down, but...good for us consumers, not so good for the oil companies. I think the government has responded, and released some of the gas. Another reason why prices have fallen recently is because the companies like Shell raised their prices, together with all other gas companies. They were discovered and forced to lower prices. All a bunch of greedy bastards...
As KSA has already pointed out, that's oil, not gas. That oil would last the country a month, maybe two and then it'll run out (after only providing a few cents of price relief). The title is Strategic Petroleum Reserve, not Tactical Petroleum Reserve. It is there for a major emergency when there is a critical shortage (Hurricane Katrina) not when we want a quick fix for gas prices.
Also, the gas prices have taken a dip in the last week or so because oil futures went from $148 to $125 last week. Don't expect it to last forever, but enjoy it while you can. :banana:
leninrocks244
07-25-2008, 01:56 PM
Totally stopping all petroleum-based transportation for more than a day would present major problems, and probably not for the oil companies. However, for people who are able (live in cities or are otherwise close to work/school/public transportation) a day, two days, or even a week of not buying gas would send a message to people in the oil business (the government, the oil companies, oil-producing countries) that we as a people are getting really pissed off. It would certainly get the message across faster than 4-12 months of slowly declining consumption.
Exactly. It would work in smaller communities, but in NYC or Chicago, it would spell disaster.
Zagato
07-25-2008, 02:46 PM
It's not the fault of the oil companies, it's the fault of ourselves as consumers.
Just try to look back on yourselves in the past decade or so. See how we took oil for granted.
Just a few years ago we witnessed the four by four offroader sales boom. On top of that, the third world is starting to hit the streets in cars rather than smokey motorcycles. We told the automotive companies that we wanted massive offroaders, and we got them. It's not that we need to stop driving altogether, we just need to be more sensible about it.
ShadowPhoenix
07-25-2008, 02:49 PM
Sweet relief!!!
I got some today for only $3.59/gal.
Franklin
07-25-2008, 10:39 PM
Gas prices are a mess and are forcing me to use public transportation to and from school. Although we have seen a small drop in prices in Southern California I don't think it will last long. With my bank failing, gas prices on the rise, the Dollar worth only .50 cents in England, America's headed down the crapper if someone doesn't do something fast. I don't care who it is, just do something before Depression 2.0 comes strolling down my lane and anarchy comes a knocking on my door.
Lmcfalcon12
07-26-2008, 04:54 AM
It's not the fault of the oil companies, it's the fault of ourselves as consumers.
Just try to look back on yourselves in the past decade or so. See how we took oil for granted.
Just a few years ago we witnessed the four by four offroader sales boom. On top of that, the third world is starting to hit the streets in cars rather than smokey motorcycles. We told the automotive companies that we wanted massive offroaders, and we got them. It's not that we need to stop driving altogether, we just need to be more sensible about it.
Hmmm. See how we took oil for granted? More and more drivers get on the road and each new car needs oil to power it. Driving is basically a necessity that most people need to go to work etc. To tell you the truth, I don't see where we took oil for granted. A boost to motorcycles and ATV's sounds like an economy boost to me...
leninrocks244
07-26-2008, 12:53 PM
Sweet relief!!!
I got some today for only $3.59/gal.
That's fucking nuts.
Zagato
07-26-2008, 01:09 PM
Hmmm. See how we took oil for granted? More and more drivers get on the road and each new car needs oil to power it. Driving is basically a necessity that most people need to go to work etc. To tell you the truth, I don't see where we took oil for granted. A boost to motorcycles and ATV's sounds like an economy boost to me...
We took oil for granted when the automotive market exploded with big SUV's. Remember? Minivans became 'uncool' so soccer moms piled into massive, big engined four by fours. Celebrities drove around in G-Wagons and Range Rovers, so SUV's became cool. What made things worse, is that amazingly, the agricultural-based pick-up truck suddenly evolved into 'luxury' family cars. Our stupidity in the past few years helped cause the oil demand.
I'm a car lover, and I admit, when I was young I always wanted a Chev Suburban because it was big. Thankfully I can now open my eyes and see how pointlessly wasteful my views were back then.
The SUV craze is slowly coming to an end, but they're still out there. Clogging up the streets and burning fuel. I still like SUV's, but I just wish the consumer can stop telling the companies they want big leather seats, and V8's. Four by fours are for the countryside and don't deserve anymore luxuries than airconditioning.
DDEShare
07-27-2008, 03:19 PM
Isn't it funny how we used to get gas (in Canada anyways) for 0.70 a litre...now, if it drops to around 1.40 per litre we consider it super cheap...Everytime we plan to fill up, we go to Seattle XD. Gas is cheaper in the States, by around 10-20 cents.
The Corporal
07-28-2008, 03:41 PM
We took oil for granted when the automotive market exploded with big SUV's. Remember? Minivans became 'uncool' so soccer moms piled into massive, big engined four by fours. Celebrities drove around in G-Wagons and Range Rovers, so SUV's became cool. What made things worse, is that amazingly, the agricultural-based pick-up truck suddenly evolved into 'luxury' family cars. Our stupidity in the past few years helped cause the oil demand.
I'm a car lover, and I admit, when I was young I always wanted a Chev Suburban because it was big. Thankfully I can now open my eyes and see how pointlessly wasteful my views were back then.
The SUV craze is slowly coming to an end, but they're still out there. Clogging up the streets and burning fuel. I still like SUV's, but I just wish the consumer can stop telling the companies they want big leather seats, and V8's. Four by fours are for the countryside and don't deserve anymore luxuries than airconditioning.
I could never understand the craze over owning SUVs. Sure, if you're off-roading a lot, but why else would you own one? SUVs were some times twice as expensive as a minivan that could do everything most SUV owners did. Trucks could accomplish most of the rest of things that SUVs were used for. Sure, minivans suck, but if you need a lot of space just get a full-sized car. A friend of mine got his grandparents' old Lincoln for his birthday and you could seriously fit about 8 bodies people in his trunk.
Zagato
07-29-2008, 12:05 AM
A friend of mine got his grandparents' old Lincoln for his birthday and you could seriously fit about 8 bodies people in his trunk.
Awesome, is it a Continental or Town Car? I've always loved the looks of those behemoths.
leninrocks244
07-29-2008, 12:34 PM
SUV's are just another reason why I hate the suburbs.
Isaac of Trek
07-29-2008, 10:33 PM
Yall should feel lucky. In Israel its been alot more for years. RE: OP, 8 Shekel for 2 liters of coke, alot more for 2 liters of Gas.
leninrocks244
07-30-2008, 12:06 PM
Yall should feel lucky. In Israel its been alot more for years. RE: OP, 8 Shekel for 2 liters of coke, alot more for 2 liters of Gas.
And 8 Shekels = how many American dollars?
The Corporal
08-01-2008, 05:34 AM
As of just a moment ago, 8 shekels is 2.26879 dollars. (about 3.5 shekels to the dollar).
leninrocks244
08-01-2008, 12:05 PM
As of just a moment ago, 8 shekels is 2.26879 dollars. (about 3.5 shekels to the dollar).
Ah.
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