The Obama Experience

[Melidan]

I could give a rats ass about his name, so do as I did and ignore that part. His record speaks for itself. If you vote for this man, you will regret it.

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

[Imperial]

I don't think that Obama or McCain will do well. I think we're going to regret it no matter what. Obama is inexperienced and McCain is a warhawk. What a great choice Reps & Dems.

[Melidan]

I don't think that Obama or McCain will do well. I think we're going to regret it no matter what. Obama is inexperienced and McCain is a warhawk. What a great choice Reps & Dems.

I agree, which is why i'm not actively supporting McCain.. However, when you think of what Obama would do as President, with a Democratic Congress.. I would rather have things stay the same, as they most likely would under a McCain admin.

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Yep

[The Corporal]

I agree, which is why i'm not actively supporting McCain.. However, when you think of what Obama would do as President, with a Democratic Congress.. I would rather have things stay the same, as they most likely would under a McCain admin.

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Bingo. I don't like McCain nearly as much as other members of the Republican party but he's a better option than Obama. I do have one thing to say to the people who don't believe in choosing the lesser of two evils (by voting for third-party candidates that the majority of people will never vote for) - if you don't vote for the lesser evil, you'll probably be sacked with the greater evil.

[Villalba]

Good. At least i know i will have a devil's deciple in the white house by 2009.

[James Davis]

On this one I'll go waay out on a limb and say no matter who wins, that person will be a one term president.

The task of satisfying the American people right now is almost beyond human capability.

[Melidan]

On this one I'll go waay out on a limb and say no matter who wins, that person will be a one term president.

The task of satisfying the American people right now is almost beyond human capability.

Well put Corporal and JD... Gingrich/Romney '12!

[Penguin Man]

WAİT

İ think obama will win because he is has a real vision and he is trying to follow that vision. Plus İ am sure he will accomplish all the things he says he will do. That is more than i can say for mcain.

plus mcain is old and we don t want a dead man walking in the white house

[Villalba]

Even if he accomplish all the things he is going to do, he will not be able to keep people happy. Because voters are couch potatoes.

[Treehugger95]

i think no matter who wins the election, i am better off if i move to a different country, then i don't have to deal with the new president.

[Zagato]

i think no matter who wins the election, i am better off if i move to a different country, then i don't have to deal with the new president.

It's not like after the election, you'll wake up to find your front door has moved and all the air turned to jello.

[The Arbiter]

ROFL, that video is hilarious. The first thing he says is already funny. Words don't matter? Two of the greatest speeches in American history he claims are "just speeches." Shut the fuck up Obama.

[Imperial]

Its almost shocking how many blind right wingers we have on these forums. Put the "Just Words" speech back into its original context. Listen to the whole speech, not just cleverly chosen sections. If you listen to the speech, Obama is invoking those speeches to show that while they were words, they MATTER and they matter quite a bit.

"It's true that speeches don't solve all problems, but what is also true is if we cannot inspire the country to believe again, then it doesn't matter how many policies and plans we have, and that is why I am running for president of the United States of America, and that is why we just won 8 elections straight, because the American people want to believe in change again. Don't tell me words don't matter!"

Take anything out of its context and you can spin it anyway you want. I think this qualifies as a "right wing hit job" :evilking:

[The Arbiter]

How about the lapel pin and not putting his hand over his heart during the anthem?

[Imperial]

* Imperial shrugs.

I'm not Obama and I'm not a Democrat, so I can't explain the logic. I don't think that Obama needs to wear his patriotism on his suit, its phony (like President Bush).

According to http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp, it is not a consistent issue. Obama was wearing an Israeli/US flag pin when he addressed the Israel lobby group though, that was interesting: http://bp3.blogger.com/_CSUPQ7EpU_4/SFFw4mgiEWI/AAAAAAAAYDs/RlGuGVltw0Q/s1600-h/israel+flag+2.jpg

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"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said. "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest.

"Instead," he said, "I'm going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testimony to my patriotism."

In Iowa, some Obama supporters applauded the candidate's fashion statement. Said Carrie Haurum of Waterloo: "He doesn't need to wear that flag on his lapel. He wears it in his heart."

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3690000

[James Davis]

Frankly, I don't care about Obama's flag pin or the national anthem thing. The Reverend Wright ordeal only disturbs me in a minor way. When I go to the polls and vote against Obama, it will not be because I think he's a Muslim, or because I think he's unpatriotic.

The only reason I'm voting against Obama is because I'm center-right in political orientation, and Obama is clearly the most radical candidate either of the parties have had the gall to nominate. In my opinion, there is nothing more dangerous than an idealist in a position of power. That goes for idealists of all positions.

[Melidan]

Frankly, I don't care about Obama's flag pin or the national anthem thing. The Reverend Wright ordeal only disturbs me in a minor way. When I go to the polls and vote against Obama, it will not be because I think he's a Muslim, or because I think he's unpatriotic.

The only reason I'm voting against Obama is because I'm center-right in political orientation, and Obama is clearly the most radical candidate either of the parties have had the gall to nominate. In my opinion, there is nothing more dangerous than an idealist in a position of power. That goes for idealists of all positions.

Very, very well put.

[Zagato]

The only reason I'm voting against Obama is because I'm center-right in political orientation, and Obama is clearly the most radical candidate either of the parties have had the gall to nominate. In my opinion, there is nothing more dangerous than an idealist in a position of power. That goes for idealists of all positions.

He could be the next Gorbachev. Good intentions, failed objectives.

[The Arbiter]

WAİT

İ think obama will win because he is has a real vision and he is trying to follow that vision. Plus İ am sure he will accomplish all the things he says he will do. That is more than i can say for mcain.

plus mcain is old and we don t want a dead man walking in the white house
I LOL'd. "Obama has a vision." Obama stands up there with his head up his ass saying "change" over and over again and his supporters are like "yeah, change, we like change!!" What change? What's going to change Obama? And what you said about him being old, so fucking what? He's old. He's wise and he has a lot of experience. He's a Vietnam war vet, that's more than you can say for Obama. A "dead man walking" that really was something. Brightened my day, quite hilarious.

[Megamind]

You think there is any chance we can get the guy who made that vid to make our propaganda from now on?

[The Arbiter]

You think there is any chance we can get the guy who made that vid to make our propaganda from now on?
LMAO. After I did research on that video I found out that some of it was bullshit. However, the Che Guevara connection disturbs me. So does the Reverend Wright thing and calling his grandma a racist. This is what I've discovered about Obama, ALL HE WANTS IS TO BE THE PRESIDENT. He doesn't wear a lapel pin sometimes to appeal to the radical liberals, he wears it other times to appeal to conservatives, he says he's pulling all troops out of Iraq to appeal to the radical liberals, then he says he's doing 1 squad a month to appeal to moderate liberals. He lies and lies and lies just to appeal to everyone.

[leninrocks244]

They're both blood sucking capitalists.

[The Arbiter]

They're both blood sucking capitalists.
LOL. Blood-sucking.. haha.. Wow.

[leninrocks244]

LOL. Blood-sucking.. haha.. Wow.

Do you always have to be an asshole?

[The Arbiter]

Do you always have to be an asshole?
I just thought that blood-sucking was an interesting way to describe two presidential candidates. Especially since the one you're voting for is raising taxes.

[leninrocks244]

I just thought that blood-sucking was an interesting way to describe two presidential candidates. Especially since the one you're voting for is raising taxes.

Are you talking about Obama? If so, I don't really give a damn about him. He's going to win anyways. He has 10% more of the people behing him than McCain.

[James Davis]

Definition of Politics: Poli, meaning many. Tic, meaning a small bloodsucking insect.

Arbiter, it's a figure of speech, try not to be so abrasive.

[The Arbiter]

Are you talking about Obama? If so, I don't really give a damn about him. He's going to win anyways. He has 10% more of the people behing him than McCain.
Not true. That's what the media wants you to think. They poll 50 poor black people from Chicago and give you those statistics. It's bullshit.

[leninrocks244]

Not true. That's what the media wants you to think. They [B]poll[B/] 50 poor black people from Chicago and give you those statistics. It's bullshit.

You need to learn how to spell, and that's pretty ignorant of you to say that. First it was the thing with the Koreans and the Vietnamese..... I'm starting to think that somebody's a little racist...

[The Arbiter]

You need to learn how to spell, and that's pretty ignorant of you to say that. First it was the thing with the Koreans and the Vietnamese..... I'm starting to think that somebody's a little racist...
They poll black people only because black people want Obama to win. Nothing racist about that. And it's not ignorance, it's true.

[leninrocks244]

They poll black people only because black people want Obama to win. Nothing racist about that. And it's not ignorance, it's true.

Where's your proof?

[The Arbiter]

The press is very liberal and they simply want Obama to win. They go around asking people they KNOW will vote for Obama to participate in their polls.

[leninrocks244]

The press is very liberal and they simply want Obama to win. They go around asking people they KNOW will vote for Obama to participate in their polls.

You know they don't just go around asking people in Chicago alone. It's a national poll. And if it was McCain leading the polls, it wouldn't be propoganda to you now wouldn't it? You're just in denial.

[leninrocks244]

And I meant proof as in links btw.

[James Davis]

I've heard of some distortions in the polls, but nothing significant.

These poll results we're talking about and 60 million votes in the fall might win Obama the presidency. Translation: They don't mean anything.

[Assarax]

You know us Chicagoans, we vote early, and vote often. Hell, even our DEAD vote.

[The Arbiter]

You know us Chicagoans, we vote early, and vote often. Hell, even our DEAD vote.
ROFL.

[Assarax]

It's true. Its common knowledge that past Chicago mayoral elections were rigged in such a way.

[Megamind]

It's true. Its common knowledge that past Chicago mayoral elections were rigged in such a way.

dude...that's so from a Simpsons episode :P

[leninrocks244]

It's true. Its common knowledge that past Chicago mayoral elections were rigged in such a way.

It's true. It just shocks me how they could re-elect Daley again after all that he's done against the common person. It's obviously rigged.

[The Arbiter]

It's true. It just shocks me how they could re-elect Daley again after all that he's done against the common person. It's obviously rigged.
*sighs* It's not rigged.

[leninrocks244]

*sighs* It's not rigged.

You don't even live in Chicago, how would you know?

[The Arbiter]

You don't even live in Chicago, how would you know?
Just because the votes don't go your way doesn't mean it's rigged.

[leninrocks244]

Just because the votes don't go your way doesn't mean it's rigged.

You don't have a clue how corrupt the Daley Administration is.