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[Matthew The Great]

Your Ruler Name: Matthew The Great
Your Nation Name: Matt United States
Link to your Nation: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=309478

Alliance Affiliation: Mushroom Kingdom
Link to your Alliance: www.newpacificorder.net
Alliance Color: Aqua
Your Superior Officer: Hell i don't know 1337guy is here so I guess its him
Position in Alliance: Member

Embassy Requested:No

[DanDesade]

do you remember this matt?

Matthew The Great

Re: (1) Legion vs TPF (3)
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2010, 10:34:11 PM »

is this a contest, Legion all the way, its not just that they make moronic decisions, but that they certainly have teh potential to be their own alliance and they fail at utilizing it

[Lord Fingolfin]

Your Ruler Name: Matthew The Great
Your Nation Name: Matt United States
Link to your Nation: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=309478

Alliance Affiliation: Mushroom Kingdom
Link to your Alliance: www.newpacificorder.net
Alliance Color: Aqua
Your Superior Officer: Hell i don't know 1337guy is here so I guess its him
Position in Alliance: Member

Embassy Requested:No

Oooh! Ooooh! Ooooh! I like this guy! Give him a mask!

:ph34r:

[Matthew The Great]

do you remember this matt?

What you expect me to take that back?

[DanDesade]

What you expect me to take that back?

No, just some discussion would be nice. Some of us were dissapointed you left but then this reared its ugly head. If you're here on FA business, you are welcome. That first sentence is your first diplomatic point of discussion, hopefully leading to something more fruitful.

[Matthew The Great]

OK, well then I don't hate you guys, but to throw it out there you kind of suck, I left basically b/c the government was ineffective, it made the same mistakes over and over again, never consulted the membership ever, and was essentially lying about anything it was doing


and then when they did tell you what was happening they did it in a grudging way and basically blamed all problems on the membership seeking transparency


like I said you guys have potential to be a really good alliance, but you consistently fabricate excuses to any criticism you get

[DanDesade]

OK, well then I don't hate you guys, but to throw it out there you kind of suck, I left basically b/c the government was ineffective, it made the same mistakes over and over again, never consulted the membership ever, and was essentially lying about anything it was doing


and then when they did tell you what was happening they did it in a grudging way and basically blamed all problems on the membership seeking transparency


like I said you guys have potential to be a really good alliance, but you consistently fabricate excuses to any criticism you get

I kind of had that impression when you left. however, from the GMs perspective, your perspective was difficult to appreciate. i suppose what we felt most slighted by was that you singled out the alliance and not the individual. making us all feel somwhat overwhelmed and angry to be considered not for our own merits and instead be judged based upon the actions of others

[The Arbiter]

OK, well then I don't hate you guys, but to throw it out there you kind of suck, I left basically b/c the government was ineffective, it made the same mistakes over and over again, never consulted the membership ever, and was essentially lying about anything it was doing


and then when they did tell you what was happening they did it in a grudging way and basically blamed all problems on the membership seeking transparency


like I said you guys have potential to be a really good alliance, but you consistently fabricate excuses to any criticism you get
Look about right to me.

[jimmy]

Matt! Grrrr!!!! well, ah, ya, fair enough. But you'll always be a Legionaire!

[justavictim82]

OK, well then I don't hate you guys, but to throw it out there you kind of suck (A), I left basically b/c the government was ineffective(B), it made the same mistakes over and over again, never consulted the membership (C) ever, and was essentially lying about anything it was doing (D)


and then when they did tell you what was happening they did it in a grudging way and basically blamed all problems on the membership seeking transparency (E)


like I said you guys have potential to be a really good alliance, but you consistently fabricate excuses to any criticism you get (F)

Dont think it goes both way. We understand what you did here but you tried to throw us under the bus after stating it was 'all you'. Why should we take your word with any substance now?

Now im going to get the bolded parts labeled with (letter):

(A) We kind of suck? There is no such thing as we kind of suck. You either suck all the way or you don't which is it. By the interpretation that I as well as many others got from you post in MK's board, you believe we suck. Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. Dont come here, however and act like nothing has happened.

(B) Be a little more specific? What part of government or all of it? Just because we didnt suck off a member of SuperGrievenaces to get a treaty with them doesnt make us a bad alliance. It means we are a alliance that sticks to our ideals. We aren't IRON that draws their friends into a curbstomp than abandons them a few months later just as they finish paying off reps. IA? Could tell you but I know you werent a member so i dont think you know either. Defense? You dont qualify to answer that.

(C) This isnt a democracy. They (Watcher, Totem and the Department heads) are doing what they feel best for this Alliance. In fact, MK isnt a Democracy either. Do you think Archon goes to his membership and asks them if they should upgrade or a sign a treaty with? Probably not. He probably approach his department heads but thats about it.

(D) Cool story. Proof or GTFO

(E) Or maybe they had bigger things on their plate than to explain everything to you?

(F) I agree with the first half of the sentance but i already think its a good alliance with the possibility of becoming a great alliance. Also What fabricated excuses? Seriously before you start throwing accusations at us you should at least bring some facts.

If you want to be an ambassador to us fine. I have no problem with that but understand this: RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE THE CREDABILITY OF IRON. YOU BRING NO FACTS TO THE TABLE AND BRING NOTHING TO THE CONVERSATION. I highly expect you to not answer this in a rational/logical way but if you do you might move up to say.... UPN status in my mind.

[Watcher]

OK, well then I don't hate you guys, but to throw it out there you kind of suck, I left basically b/c the government was ineffective, it made the same mistakes over and over again, never consulted the membership ever, and was essentially lying about anything it was doing


and then when they did tell you what was happening they did it in a grudging way and basically blamed all problems on the membership seeking transparency


like I said you guys have potential to be a really good alliance, but you consistently fabricate excuses to any criticism you get

:psyduck:

[Lord Fingolfin]

:psyduck:

I see you

[totem]

Masked, welcome to the Legion.